[steplock]

I KNEW I should have check that LAWYER's email address.

As typical for that sub-species, it was a LIE!

bmbird@worldnet.att.net
SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:: host gateway1.worldnet.att.net [204.127.134.23]:
551 not our customer .

[steplock]

Bitterroot National Forest in Montana on August 6 by a fire behavior analyst from Fairbanks, Alaska by the name of John McColgan with a Digital camera.

[concerned about politics]

Tis the season to ruthlessly kill a pine tree.
Go for it! Have twice the fun - kill two!

[farmfriend]

Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

[tubebender]

He said he was also glad to see that the judge is asking for a $10,000 corporate surety bond from the plaintiffs.

That should at least be $100,000 and probably $500,000 to compensate the loggers and mills for delays...

[sauropod]

I hope we can get something started here on FR. In the past, we have had some success with Klamath and Jarbidge and the Darby and the like.

This is every bit a problem as the WOT. 'Pod

[Valin]

"The Sierra Club considers this a huge victory for the people of Arkansas," said Bryan Bird

Right particularly the lumberjacks, and those that provide support for them, the towns they live....etc.

[henderson field]

Does anyone know what the Sierra Club is doing to stop immigration, which is the major cause of loss of habitat? They're doing nothing? How can that be? They're so concerned.

[American in Israel]

Jim Crouch, director of the Ouachita Timber Purchasers Group, said the temporary restraining order poses a minor inconvenience for timber companies. Crouch represents companies that buy and process timber from Arkansas national forests.

The temporary restraining order will cost the lumber company time and money. Just before the court case comes to docket, the sierra club will drop the case. That way it protects itself from getting charged with frivolous lawsuit charges, or getting fined for court costs. They have been doing this in California for years. In this way the Sierra Club brought the timber industry and State Forestry to its knees. The result was the biggest fires in California's history. I guess the Sierra Club, who single hand-idly wiped out many of the forests in the Sierras need to find new forests to play with.

If they are not "saving" forests, the donations don't come in and the multi-million dollar industry of bogus activism for bucks grinds to a halt.

[Eva]

From Frontpage Magazine:


Environmentalism Trashed Again
By James K. Glassman
AEI | December 22, 2003


The Danish Ministry of Science, Technology and Innovation today severely repudiated a board which, a year ago, had judged The Skeptical Environmentalist, the best-selling book by Bjorn Lomborg, "objectively dishonest" and "clearly contrary to the standards of good scientific practice."
Lomborg's book--with 2,930 footnotes, 1,800 bibliographical references, 173 figures and nine tables--powerfully challenged the conventional wisdom that the world's environment was going to hell. When it was published in English in 2001, the book, published by the distinguished Cambridge University Press, was praised in the Washington Post, the Economist and elsewhere.

That reception provoked panic among radical greens. In early 2002, the Economist reported that "Mr. Lomborg is being called a liar, a fraud and worse. People are refusing to share a platform with him. He turns up in Oxford to talk about this book, and the author . . . of a forthcoming study on climate change throws a pie in his face."

In January 2002, Scientific American magazine published a special section titled "Science Defends Itself Against 'The Skeptical Environmentalist.'" Articles by perfervid critics of Lomborg covered 11 pages. All this attention, however, served merely to boost sales of the book, which nearly two years after its publication still ranked first in its category on Amazon.com.

Then, in January, came what enviros figured would be the coup de grace: a report by the Danish Committees on Scientific Dishonesty (DCSC). The report was, to be charitable, a piece of junk, but its conclusions, coming from an official body, were nonetheless given prominent display in world media. The New York Times headlined its page 7 story by Andrew Revkin, "Environment and Science: Danes Rebuke a 'Skeptic.'"

Now, the Danes have issued a well-deserved rebuke to the rebukers.

The Ministry of Science characterized the DCSC's treatment of the case as "dissatisfactory," "deserving criticism," and "emotional." It found that the ruling was "completely void of argumentation."

No kidding. The DCSC simply relied on excerpts from the Scientific American smears. The only other evidence came from Time magazine.

In its conclusion, the Ministry sent the case back to the DCSD "with an injunction that the DCSD should allow itself to be advised by the Danish Social Science Research Council in matters regarding good scientific practice. In summary, the Ministry must also state that, in its opinion, the treatment by the DCSD of this case deserves criticism."

The ministry's decision is the latest in a series of setbacks for environmental radicals in recent months. I just returned from COP-9, the big United Nations conference on global warming, held in Milan. Never have I seen enviros so dispirited or in such disarray. The Kyoto Protocol, which requires severe cutbacks in carbon-dioxide emissions, is clearly dead. The Europeans are still waiting for the Russians to ratify the treaty. Instead, the Russians are making the most cogent case, intellectually and economically, against it.

Meanwhile, new reports have repudiated Michael Mann's "hockey stick" theory of sharply rising temperatures, a mainstay of warming enthusiasts; have shown that the last century was not particularly warm in comparison with other, pre-industrial periods; and have made a strong case for solar activity, not human intervention, as the main factor in warming.

Earlier, the U.S. Senate soundly defeated the McCain-Lieberman bill, which would have foisted a "Kyoto Lite" on the United States. The bill lost despite the fact that Sen. McCain sold it as costing just $20 per family (a study by Charles River Associates found otherwise, but the green propaganda made the bill sound not disruptive at all, and still it lost).

And now, the vindication of Lomborg--the mild-mannered statistician who simply said that the emperor had no clothes.

[Trteamer]

Let me tell you all a true story about the Sierra Club:

One of my best friends won a whistle-blower lawsuit against the Colorado State Forest Service. He blew the whistle on them for burrying motor oil and pesticides on state land in Fort Collins, Colorado when he worked for them. The EPA will not touch this with a 10 foot pole, and the toxic waste remains in the ground to this day.

Out of frustration we contacted the local Sierra Club and met with their leaders to discuss some action to get it cleaned up. The leader kept on spouting BS about how evil big business is. Blah,Blah,Blah (I don't think he liked my tie). We showed them the proof, in court testimony, and had the eyewhitness right there to meet with them.

Well, what came of it was NOTHING. This did not fit into their extreeme leftist view that all bad things must come from big business, (also the fact that most of them worked for Colorado State University of which the Colorado State Forest Service is part of). The government can pollute all it wants and it doesn't bother the Sierra Club one bit. The EPA doesn't want to embarrass it's fellow beauracracy, so the toxic waste remains in the ground (and groundwater).

The Sierra Club has a specific political agenda, that is what they exist for. It is all about the politics of the extreeme left.

It cares nothing about the moral duty to properly manage our natural resources. To all you leftist Sierra Club lurkers: THANK A LOGGER FOR YOUR LUMBER! (and go have a drink of some of the Spring Creek groundwater in Fort Collins).

[talleyman]

Bump!

[FlyVet]

Oh now you just leave these Sierra Club people alone. You know they don't live in houses made of wood. You know they don't have wooden furniture in their stone houses. You know they don't drive cars with evil internal combustion engines. You know they don't eat food. You know they don't wear clothes. They don't do anything that causes environmental damage.

Come to your senses. Leave them alone.