To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Cromwell's army slaughtered 30,000 Irish men, women and children in the city of Drogheda, during the Battle of the Boyne.
To: Prince Charles
My bad, that should be 3,000.
To: Prince Charles
It seems very difficult for that to have happened, when Oliver Cromwell died in 1658 and the Battle of the Boyne was fought in July 1690. The opposing armies at the Boyne were commanded, respectively, by James II and William of Orange (William III). The battle put paid to any hope of a Catholic Stuart restoration, but there was no massacre of civilians after the battle.
Cromwell did devastate Ireland in 1649-50, and massacred the inhabitants of Drogheda.
32 posted on
12/20/2003 1:45:41 PM PST by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
To: Prince Charles
Is this the incident that is referred to in the song 'The wearing of the Green'? ...
they are hanging men and women there for wearing of the green....
Ahhh yes, the British...what the populace of Scotland and Ireland have suffered at the hands of the British.
Red
36 posted on
12/20/2003 1:49:59 PM PST by
Conservative4Ever
(Dear Santa......I can explain.......)
To: Prince Charles
While touring Westminster Abbey in 1998, as I passed the burial nitch of Oliver Cromwell, I spat upon his grave. I could hear the sighs of approbation of 20 generations of my forebearers as my spittle hit the ground.
61 posted on
12/20/2003 2:56:52 PM PST by
harrym
To: Prince Charles
To: Prince Charles
Civil wars are a bitch. One could say Lincoln slaughtered hundreds of thousands if you take the 'War of Northern Aggression' tack.
Yes the reformation wars were about religion but then religion was politics. Catholics were seen as foreigh agents and many of them were. It is hard for a Protestant loyalist to look favorably upon a RC who probably had far more loyalty to Rome than his King.
There is no better argument that the US should still be united than there is that the UK should. (unless you think islands have more import than culture and law)
We and they, the majority at least, made the decision that unification was worth dying and killing for.
161 posted on
12/21/2003 12:26:49 PM PST by
mercy
To: Prince Charles
Drogheda's being divided by the river caused some confusion and may have led to the massacre. When forces on one side of the river surrendered, it is alleged that Cromwell, still meeting resistance on the other side, ordered the annihilation of the entire population. "I do not think that thirty of the whole number escaped with their lives," Cromwell later wrote. The survivors were sent to the sugar plantations at Barbados.
After the massacre, Cromwell sought to explain his actions in a letter to William Lenthall, speaker of the Parliament: "...I am persuaded that this is a righteous judgement of God upon these barbarous wretches, who have imbued their hands in so much innocent blood, and it will tend to prevent the effusion of blood for the future, which are satisfactory grounds to such actions, which otherwise cannot but work remourse and regret...."
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