How Many Catholics Were Killed During Cromwell and Henry VIII In England?

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[ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton]

My daughter who is named Chelsea after Thomas Moores residence is doing a Research Paper for History on Saint Thomas Moore.

In one of his late letters he referrs to the death of 4000 Catholics in the small port town of Chelsea, but we are having a hard time coming up with a total number of Catholics killed as a result of Henry VIII's and Cromwells reformation.

All the encyclopedia's cover the number of his wifes, how much money he "borrowed" from the Church, but nowhere can I find the number of Catholics killed.

[Volubrjotr]

LMAO!!! Elizabeth instituted “Penal Laws” in support of her puritan brother King Henry VIII. The only reason they started slaughtering Catholics was because Henry Wanted A son and wasn’t getting one through his first wife and he was denied a divorce by Rome.

He then excommunicated himself and waged war upon everything Catholic. The Catholics were being slaughtered right and left. Elizabeth killed way more than Henry and Henry alone killed 983 for none state reasons aka; For Being Catholic.

[Volubrjotr]

983 Catholics were murdered under king henry VIII

[Volubrjotr]

You a victim of propaganda!

Study The Black Legend And The Protestant Inquisitions.

The pattern of Catholic Genocide is replete in History and propagandized by self seeking protestants to justify their acts.

The truth, which we hope we are reestablishing, makes it clear, and confirms with even greater force the fact that the history of the Church is very different from what is usually claimed, and far from being a repetition of obscurantisms and oppressions. Repetitions which so many of our contemporaries pretend to see in it as a result of propaganda which is as old as it is repetitive.
http://www.the-pope.com/spaninqc.html
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/history/world/wh0008.html

[Volubrjotr]

Don’t forget all the Lutheran killings in Germany, to those of the Puritans in England, to the Calvinist killings in Switzerland, the tens, and even hundreds of thousands of victims of the suppression of “sorcerers and witches” by the puritans/protestants which the Inquisition in Spain alone, was able to prevent.

In London in 1569: the Protestant Inquisitions exercised “a much greater and more unjust oppression and tyranny [on its victims] than did the Spanish Inquisitors.”

[Oztrich Boy]

If you go to bed now, you might be sober in the morning.

[RobbyS]

Anti-Catholicism became part of the British system of Government under Elizabeth. English became a Protestant, or at least an anti-papist state and so has remained, mitigated I must say by the revolution of manners initiated by William Wilberforce and the Clapham sect. One consequence was Catholic emancipation in 1829. All the Same,the conversion of John Henry Newman to Roman Catholicism caused a great shock. We have forgotten what a great talent he was, and how English, himself the product of evangelicalism. He had became part of a revival of Catholic feeling in the Church of England, which played itself out in the adoption of a very “Romish” style of liturgy. There was even an attempt to get from Rome a recognition of the legitimacy of Anglican ordination, which fizzled. The country at large remained Protestant, and social prejudice against Catholics was not unlike that against Jews. Strong but seldom vulgar.
Winston Church took a liking to the Catholic archbishop of Westminster, and did not like the Archbishop of Canterbury. But as Prime minister he could not been seen in public with the Catholic archbishop. The public had greatly disapproved of the restored RC hierarchy in England in the 1850s, which was seen a kind of embarrassment.

[RobbyS]

Well, the English Star Chamber system was at least as oppressive as the Spanish inquisition. And the disciple of the Scottish kirk was very like an inquisition. All jumped on any unwanted religious deviancy.

[RobbyS]

Wel, this was war, and religious wars are often vicious. IAC, Cromwell became the terror of Europe, which trembled at the thought of the New Model Army turned lose on its shores. He was the most successful English commander since Henry V—also a religious zealot and someone whose career was cut short.

[Cicero]

It is known as “the Black Legend.” England has always been extremely good at propagandizing, and all the Protestants in Europe were happy to go along with it.

Mention the word “Inquisition” and people still think of something horrible, worse than Hitler. Yet the Inquisition actually killed very few people. During the witchcraft scare of the 16th and 17th centuries, the Roman Inquisition barely executed anyone for witchcraft. They took it for what it was—deluded people. But in the Protestant North, thousands of witches were burned.

As you say, most of those executed in Spain were condemned because Spain was fighting its way out from under Muslim domination, and there were spies and agents in Spain who were secretly cooperating with the Muslims who threatened to re-invade the country from North Africa.