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Sept. 11 Panel: Bush, Clinton Not to Blame - No Evidence to Blame Clinton or Bush Administrations
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Posted on 12/18/2003 4:39:17 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Alas Babylon!
...most thinking Americans don't buy any of it. We can only hope...! BTW: Thank you for the Sunday morning efforts you do.
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posted on
12/18/2003 4:59:57 PM PST
by
Aeronaut
(In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
To: Alas Babylon!
It's not the *thinking* Americans Im worried about, it's the moron voters that worry me.
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posted on
12/18/2003 5:00:18 PM PST
by
mystery-ak
(Mike...Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas...)
To: Dog Gone
Agreed. As a parallel, the rot in Canuckistan is not just the fault of the former Chretien government, although he accelerated it beyond what many thought was possible. It began wholehearted with Trudeau, but in fact can be traced back to the Tory government of Diefenbaker (cancelling the Arrow, not fighting for the right to make the BOMARK {s?} nuclear missle, etc). It can happen slowly and the realization of the damage doesn't emerge until situation nearly critical. I hope we come out of it. I deeply hope America doesn't fully slide into it. I'm an optimist, though, I must admit :-)
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posted on
12/18/2003 5:01:44 PM PST
by
mitchbert
(Facts are Stubborn Things)
To: Sub-Driver
Chris Matthews was being his obtuse self on this matter and now I see Keith Olbermann promoing his show just starting and this heads the list.
Kean's words actually were oblique, but certainly could be construed to be wielded against Bush. Did CBS distort or did he deliberately craft his words to be interpreted as the hearer wished? I don't trust him.
Matthews also had that widow that's leading the charge specifically against Condi in the 9/11 matter.
Here's Olberman quoting the CBS story. Ah, Olberman just said Kean referred "vaguely" to the Bush administration.
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posted on
12/18/2003 5:02:43 PM PST
by
cyncooper
("The evil is in plain sight")
To: Sub-Driver
how about Adams or Washington?
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posted on
12/18/2003 5:03:24 PM PST
by
breakem
To: Sub-Driver
"Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., said Kean's comments meant "that Bush administration officials had valuable information that could have prevented the terrorist attacks."
Will Lautenberg be retracking his statement?
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posted on
12/18/2003 5:03:55 PM PST
by
ironman
To: sinkspur
Are you kidding? There are plenty of people who will believe it. Some because they are stupid and some because they want to.
To: Sub-Driver
It should have been obvious with anyone with the eyes to see that CBS was twisting Kean's words so that they communicated what they wanted to hear -- that is, as constituting an attack on the Bush administration -- rather than what he actually said. Read the original CBS report again. Kean never points a finger at the Bush administration. He said that 9/11 could have been prevented. That same has been said a number of times by the Bush administration, in statements, for example, by Rumsfeld and Powell.
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posted on
12/18/2003 5:04:44 PM PST
by
bdeaner
To: Aeronaut
Anyone see Crisssy Matthews just beat up Peggy Noonan?? What an ASS he is. I detest him now.
To: Sub-Driver
Did CBS twist Kean's words? Did they slant their story? Did ABC see a possibility that their man Clinton's "legacy" would be "smeared" if they let the CBS "report" stand? I don't believe for a minute they did this out of some sort of journalistic CONSCIENCE and I still don't trust Kean.
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posted on
12/18/2003 5:05:22 PM PST
by
arasina
(What will YOU do when Howard Dean or Hillary Clinton is president?)
To: MattAMiller
Some people saw the spin CBS put on their story and went nuts. I did too at first, until I read a little closer. Goes to show how effective media bias can be. That's what I pointed out yesterday, too.
And there's talk of both Bush and Clinton "testifying" for this committee. Can you imagine Clinton's smarmy "testimony"? I get sick to my stomach thinking of how he would craft his whole message to point blame away from himself and toward Bush, while President Bush would stick to facts.
The truth will out, but it is painful to watch those who wish ill to this administration deceptively twist information.
Ack. Olberman hauls on Gary Hart who just said "Yes, this was preventable".
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posted on
12/18/2003 5:06:05 PM PST
by
cyncooper
("The evil is in plain sight")
To: ironman
Will Lautenberg be retracking his statement? He won't remember he made it.
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posted on
12/18/2003 5:06:25 PM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: Ann Archy
Anyone see Crisssy Matthews just beat up Peggy Noonan?? Details please!
Did Matthews let her get a word in?
Peggy is an intellectual giant next to him. I can't believe she could have had a chance to adequately respond and not crush him like a bug. More info please. Thanks.
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posted on
12/18/2003 5:08:15 PM PST
by
mitchbert
(Facts are Stubborn Things)
To: sinkspur
Lawrence O'Donnell just said on hardball that President Bush, while not being legalese, intimated to the American people that SH was involved in 911 because he mentioned OBL and SH in the same speeches. These guys are desperate, and logic like this, spoken in all sincerity, can only help our side. O'Donnell should be ashamed of himself.
To: cyncooper
Wesley Clark said today that President Bush failed in his oath of office. Gary Hart just spoke the word "impeachment". I guess they are really going to try this, aren't they?
To: ironman
he's senile...........
To: Sub-Driver
It is not what the Clinton administration did, but what it failed to do that left this nation vulnerable for 9-11.
To: Ann Archy
I saw the whole thing, he is getting desperate. Peggy Noonan is no one to pick on, and she did not lose her cool.
To: Sub-Driver
Everyone on both sides needs to stop blameshifting.
There's only one person to blame - OSAMA BIN LADEN.
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posted on
12/18/2003 5:12:10 PM PST
by
Toskrin
To: mitchbert
Canada today is where America would have been 20 years from now if 9/11 hadn't slapped us into reality. I don't wish a 9/11 on Canada to undo the past mistakes, nor do I think it will happen. At present, Canada is no threat to the ambitions of terrorists, so there is no reason to target it.
The only question I have is whether Canada will be willing to change its policies to the point where terrorists perceive it as an adversary. I don't have any reason to be hopeful in the short term, but I do keep hoping.
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posted on
12/18/2003 5:12:23 PM PST
by
Dog Gone
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