Sept. 11 Panel: Bush, Clinton Not to Blame - No Evidence to Blame Clinton or Bush Administrations

Well, ok. But if we riot does, that include looting, also. I'm new to this riot stuff.

"it looks more like CBS sifted comments for anti-Bush material out of context and ran with it."

SHOCKED!!! I'm really SHOCKED!!!

Im so SICK of hearing the 911 "blame game" played all over again. Somone else has already pointed out the obvious... that OSAMA BIN LADIN bears responsibility.

Lets just say.. for arguments sake that they DID know something was going to happen... that they even had the time, place and date, list of names etc. Then what? They storm the planes on the tarmac and grab all 19 nice middle eastern muslim men.

The lefties, multicultis, CAIR, ACLU, would be creating a shit storm that we were "profiling" or harassing these poor Mulsims because of their appearance. What proof would we have had? Boxcutters? They were not illegal at the time. Flight manuals? They were taking flying lessons! Qurans? How dare anyone accuse a deeply religious Muslim! Death cult headbands? Are you implying that this Islamic attire has something to do with murder? And so on...

If we said that they were going to be suicide hijackers flying their planes into skyscrapers you would have said that this was nuts. Illogical. The nice foloks at the UN, HRW etc would say we stooopid Amerikaners watch to much hollywood movies and can no longer tell fiction from reality.

The 19 would have to be released. If they were kept in jail the same idiots that are campaigning for terrorits rights in Gitmo would be whining about out detention of these 19 hikackers, about US concentration camps... lack of trial... lack of evidence. The UN would say the French were coming round to accepting it if we just produced more evidence, and let them out on bail in the meantime... The Dims would say Bush lied.. we were duped.. etc...

Any attempt to improve airport security and impose the checks we have seen after 9/11 would have been resisted by airlines and airports on economic grounds, and by muslim passengers waving their crying children in front of CNN, BBC and Al Jazeera cameras, saying how they were "discriminated against" because they were asked to step aside for a random check, and we would have to strip search every Irish grandmother just to prove we were not profiling, and some folks would still complain....

This travesty would go on and on until, one day, another carefully synchronized bunch of Muslims board fully fueled airliners...

Preview is my friend, but Im in a hurry :o(

Just had one of those moments where the light goes on!

Tom Kean has made those statements because he feels that the families are primary in this investigation.

A very large number of those families are from New Jersey.

Tom Kean's son is running for political office in NJ.........

I will google his name in and get more details....

The absolutely most pathetic thing of all is that the far left african americans are willing to carry the dirty water for the lefty america hating pols. Trashing Condi seems to give them great pleasure. What a shame!

I say this all the fault of bin Laden's mother. Stupid bitch.

1993 WTC 1- Treated as a "crime" with no foreign terrorist involvement. However, Blind Islamic Radical Sheik is convicted for conspiracy. Bin Laden named as an "un-indicted co-conspirator" in 1996. The same year he is offered to the Clinton Administration by the Sudan and refused saying they don't have enough evidence to convict him. Bill Clinton never visits site.

1993-18 Soldiers killed in Somalia and 84 wounded in attack planned by bin Laden. Clinton pulls troops out of Somalia. bin Laden claims victory and gains status with his followers as one who is able to make the "Great Satan" run. Somalia falls into a chaos that remains to this day.

1993- the FBI identified three "charities” connected to the terrorist organization Hamas. Clinton ignored pleas that he create a "President’s List” of extremist and terrorist groups. He feared the political fallout of "profiling” Islamic charities. Money continues to flow freely to terrorist organizations for the next 8 years.

1993-The Srebrenica Report (Deutch) revealed in 1993 Clinton embarked on an Iran/Contra like affair with Islamic Terror groups in Bosnia. In both Afghanistan and the Gulf, the Pentagon had incurred debts to Islamist groups and their Middle Eastern sponsors. By 1993 these groups, many supported by Iran and Saudi Arabia, were anxious to help Bosnian Muslims fighting in the former Yugoslavia and called in their debts with the Americans. Bill Clinton and the Pentagon were keen to be seen as creditworthy and repaid in the form of an Iran-Contra style operation - in flagrant violation of the UN security council arms embargo against all combatants in the former Yugoslavia. a mysterious fleet of black C-130 Hercules aircraft appeared and Mojahedin fighters
were also flown in. This report has just recently been made public.

1994- Algerian terrorists attempt to hijack French Airliner to fly into the Eiffel Tower. Plane is stormed by French police.

1994-"Terror 2000" was distributed to the Defense Department, State Department, FEMA, intelligence communities and members of Congress. "Targets such as the World Trade Center not only provide the requisite casualties but because of their symbolic nature provide more bang for the buck. In order to maximize their odds for success, terrorist groups will likely consider mounting multiple, simultaneous operations with the aim of overtaxing a government's ability to respond, as well as to demonstrate their professionalism and reach." At the State Department's request, it was "scrubbed" of some details, including how to hit the Pentagon or White House by airplane using the Washington Monument as a landmark.

1995- Then-Rep. Robert Torricelli, D-N.J., made secrets public at the behest of left-wing activist Bianca Jagger, his girlfriend at the time. The secrets suggested that the CIA had on its payroll one or more unsavory characters who had been involved in murder. He compromised American intelligence-gathering abilities around the world, adding that numerous CIA sources had decided to stop giving information for fear they would be outed by a congressman. Torricelli efforts paid off with the Clinton administration, which moved to ban the use of spies or the recruitment of spies that had any involvement with criminals or terrorists. Torricelli effectively blinded the CIA.

1995-5 U. S. soldiers killed in Saudi Arabia in bombing.

1995-Oklahoma City Bombing. 168 dead. Domestic terrorist McVeigh, Nichels. Jayna Davis, Oklahoma investigative reporter attempts to turn over evidence she has in the form of security videos and witness testimony to the FBI, but after checking with his superior, the evidence is refused. A Justice Department inspector, one of Clinton's own, admitted that the Oklahoma City bombing investigation "offered one of the worst examples of de facto evidence tampering by the FBI crime labs."

1995-"Operation Bojinka" plot hatched by an al Qaeda cell with an eye toward blowing up 12 American airliners. Some would be booby-trapped with bombs, like Pan Am 103, others hijacked like the four U.S. jets commandeered on 9-11 and crashed into buildings.

1996-CIA and FBI warn Clinton they have uncovered plot of al Qaeda "Martyrdom Battalion" terrorists to hijack planes and use them as missiles. This apparently is never passed on to the Congress.

1996-Philippine authorities warn the FBI they have received credible information that al Qaeda is planning on hijacking planes and flying them into Federal Buildings. Again, this information apparently stops with Bill Clinton and is never passed on to the proper Congressional Intelligence Committees.

1996-The downing of TWA Flight 800. 230 dead. Mechanical Failure blamed. Hundreds of eyewitnesses ignored as they claim they saw a surface to air missile launch and destroy the plane. Bill Clinton issues Executive Order 13039 to keep all involved in recovery process silent. Pilots Union claims FAA report on mechanical failure "bogus". FBI tells witnesses what they saw was a single "fireworks" display.

1996-Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 military personnel.

1996-Sudan offers to turn over bin Laden to US through negotiator and Clinton supporter Mr. Mansoor Ijaz. He warns them not to slight the Intelligence Officer in the Sudan by sending an aide to the Sec. of State. They ignore him and send an underling. Insulted by the slight, the Sudan refuses to speak to him. Clinton blows off offer saying they don't have enough evidence to indict bin Laden.

1996-bin Laden leaves Sudan and goes to Afghanistan as a "guest" of Mullah Omar, head of the Taliban.

1997-UNOCAL brought members of the Taliban here to the States to wine and dine them, take them to beach, show them their U.S. offices and take them to Washington to meet with the Clinton State Department. The fact they are harboring a wanted terrorist, bin Laden, is ignored.

1997- Final report of the Gore Commission on Aviation Safety comes out. The DNC received at least $498,000 from the airline industry. There was no deadline by which those requirements would have to be implemented and 2) there was no funding mechanism for ensuring that they were enacted. This insured that none of the recommendations would ever be implemented. Boston Globe, a known liberal newspaper, says Gore, “failed conspicuously to address airline safety.” That failure was traced directly to a series of campaign contributions from the airlines to the DNC.

1997- Warren Christopher resigns as Sec. of State over a conflict with Clinton over the removal of top secret defense technology from the realm of the State Department, with Congressional oversight, to the hands of Ron Brown and the Department of Commerce. He stated that that the president's actions were reckless and may jeopardized the military defense of this nation. Admonished Clinton for planning to hand over to the Communist Chinese, American missile guidance programming source codes embedded in commercial U.S. satellites. Christopher, is said to have told Clinton, the Brown deal could jeopardize "...significant military and intelligence
interests..." of the United States missile guidance system. Clinton quietly put out a post dated Executive order protecting the two companies under Congressional investigation from any criminal prosecution.

1997-The Northern Alliance threatens to overrun the Taliban and is poised to remove them from power. The Clinton Administration imposes a cease fire that both sides agree to. Saudi Arabia and Pakistan use this opportunity to re-arm the Taliban army. Clinton knows this is happening, but withholds that information from the Northern Alliance and Congress. This action assures that the Taliban will solidify their power and push back the Northern Alliance.

1997-Madeleine Albright becomes Sec. Of State. She later states, after the attacks, in her defense of Bill Clinton: "This is hard to say and I haven't found a way to say it that doesn't sound crass, but it is the truth that those {attacks before Sept. 11} were happening overseas and while there were Americans who died, there were not thousands and it did not happen on U. S. soil."

1998-Bombing of the U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000.

1998- bin Laden issued his fatwa urging his followers to target the U. S. and all Americans.

1998- Sudan offered to extradite Sayyid Iskandar Suliman and Sayyid Nazir Abbass to the U.S. for trial. They were wanted by the US for being directly involved in the bombings of its embassy in Kenya and they had intimate knowledge of the operations of the alleged guerrilla chief Osama bin Laden. The State Department, in blocking the FBI from pursuing the lead, noted that Sudan has been listed for over a decade as a state sponsor of terrorism. Yet Sudan, the official said, had asked only for a “dialogue” with the United States toward restoring a more normal diplomatic relationship. Their offer was completely ignored and Clinton instead bombed the al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory in Khartoum.

1998- UNOCAL gave up all hope of a pipeline across Afghanistan and pulled out. Not because of Afghanistan harboring a terrorist, but from pressure from the Women's Rights groups over the Taliban's treatment of women in Afghanistan.

1998-Missile strike against bin Laden's Khost, Afghanistan training camp and a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory to take Monica off the front pages is a total failure. Clinton lobs over $70 million dollars worth of Cruise Missiles at Sudan and Afghanistan hitting nothing but tents, camels and the only pharmaceutical plant in the Sudan. Done without consulting his Joint Chiefs. He informs them of his plans one half hour prior to the attack. Their pleas for him to stop the attack due to inadequate intelligence, are ignored. They later distance themselves from the attack by admitting they were not consulted. The Military Commander in that area said it "would have been a million to one shot."

1999-Ahmed Ressam, an Algerian, is arrested trying to cross the Canadian Border with explosives.

1999-Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, (R-Cal), who has spent time in Afghanistan fighting with the Northern Alliance, received credible information as to the whereabouts of bin Laden in Afghanistan. He immediately contacted the CIA with this information. The Information was never acted on. During the Clinton Administration the Voice of America became known, within Afghanistan, as the Voice of the Taliban. “People go berserk when I say that Clinton supported the Taliban, but that is the truth.” says Rohrabacher.

1999-Gen. Pervez Musharraf overthrows Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Oct. 12 in a military coup. Clinton later claims his plans to obtain bin Laden through millions in pay-offs to the Sharif Government collapse with the coup, which is very odd story since the Sharif Government was a supporter of the Taliban and bin Laden. Indeed, even the Musharraf Government supports the Taliban until after the 9/11 attacks when it becomes healthier to deal with the Taliban than an angry and hostile American military. He sees this as a chance to rid his country of the Islamic radicals that he says are the 1% of the population holding the other 99% hostage.

1999-Clinton’s own secretary of defense, William Cohen, in a July 1999 op-ed piece in the Washington Post, predicted a terrorist attack on America’s mainland.

1999-"Project Megiddo" goes public on FBI website. It is a directive, given in 1995 to FBI from Bill Clinton to direct their investigative efforts towards only domestic terrorism such as the Christian Right and militias. In short, foreign involvement is to be ignored which now explains why no evidence of foreign terrorists involvement was accepted in the Oklahoma City Bombing and downing of TWA Flight 800.

1999-A report, titled "Sociology and Psychology of Terrorism: Who Becomes a Terrorist and Why?," cautioned that Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda network might seek revenge for the 1998 U.S. air strike on bin Laden's camps in Afghanistan. It is ignored as merely a psychological report, with no credible sources.

1999- the U.N. imposes sanctions to cut off funds for Taliban arms.

1999-the U.S. finally added bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization to its list of “foreign terrorist organizations”. Still, they did not single out Afghanistan or the Taliban nor add Afghanistan to the list of countries that harbor terrorists, despite the fact bin Laden is harbored there.
1999-Mullah Khaksar, then the Taliban regime's deputy interior minister, met with U.S. diplomats Gregory Marchese and J. Peter McIllwain in Peshawar, Pakistan, in April 1999 and told them he wanted to oust Taliban supreme leader Mullah Mohammed Omar because of his support for Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda terror network. The offer was ignored by Bill Clinton. Bill told him, through his people, that "he didn't want to get involved in internal Afghani matters".

1999 - The Transportation Security Administration altered a terrorist report to exclude any and all references to foreign terrorists. David Holmes, head of the Commerce Department zeroed in on white militia groups in a 1999 threat analysis. Commerce officials who worked on the case say Holmes' exclusion of every threat group that wasn't white was in keeping with what they say was a broader Clinton administration policy of focusing on domestic threats from white militia groups, rather than Islamic groups, in combating terrorism. "Holmes made us take out every group that wasn't white – no minority groups allowed," "He was toeing the liberal line" of the Clinton administration.

July 2000 – three months before the deadly attack on the destroyer Cole in Yemen another plausible offer to deal for bin Laden. The offer required only that Clinton make a state visit there (Yemen) to personally request bin Laden's extradition. But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer.

2000-Bombing of the USS Cole. 17 sailors killed, 39 injured. Millions will be spent repairing the ship. bin Laden and the al Qaeda are the foremost suspects.

2000-Clinton orders the remains of TWA Flight 800 destroyed thus ending any possible further investigation into the downing.

2000-Bill Clinton has successfully cut the military in half over his eight years in office and blinded and effectively neutered our intelligence gathering ability.

2000-The Intelligence community around the world reports an "increase in traffic", which means more than usual interaction between terror cells which usually is a precursor of an attack somewhere in the world.

2001-Bill Clinton leaves office.

2001- September 11 2001, most deadly terrorist attack on American soil.

2002- Many Democrats start asking "What did the President know and when did he know it" ala Watergate, implying that GW knew the attacks were imminent and did nothing...ignoring all the attacks and warning signs that occurred under Bill Clinton.

2002- Bill Clinton continues to try and re-write history. Claiming he was "obsessed" with bin Laden. His aides and those that know him, say differently.

Best compilation I've ever seen on the matter and a testament of what happens when terrorists are treated as common criminals. Welcome to FR.

It helps the conservative cause when the dems respond to a reporter's rewrite of the news instead of taking the time to read the actual report.

I saw that report, and CBS clearly spun it to make it appear that the Bush administration, at the executive level, was negligent, whereas Kane is making it clear that these were relatively low-level blunders he's taking about. I doubt that CBS will run this corrective.

LOSING BIN LADIN

Highly recommended reading. It has the entire time line of events leading up to 9/11.

Good post, Headfulofghosts . Good clinton time line and terrorist history.
What did Clinton know, and when did he know it? His entire presidency!
(Bookmarked and saved for future reference)

1993-2001: While America slept and its "leaders" frolicked in the halls of power...dreaming of socialist America.

What have the dems got to lose? If they brought an impeachment bill, they would risk their trappings as a respectable, admittedly not-so-loyal, opposition.

If they were truly to mount such a maliciously-conceived assault, 65% of the country's electorate would strongly resist voting for them in the next decade. The remainder would collectively come to have as little politcal clout as does the current NAACP.

They would come to be tremendously overshadowed by the Republicans in every political area. (We could see the NEA broken and Rowe v. Wade overturned).

Having said that, it may be noted that certain uselful-idiot democrats with outlying attitudes--take Sharpton as an example--would perceive it in their interest to mount such a self-destructive effort. (Though Al probably already spent his capital for that type of brawl on behalf of Tawana.)

HF

I think those losses of seats were due more to a weaker than expected showing by Bush at the top of the ticket. Sort of a "negative" coattail effect. The election was too far after the fact for impeachment to have been a major factor if a factor at all.