(3-judge panel, 9th Circuit) Rules ALL GITMO detainees must have access to an attorney

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[Dog]

AP via Fox news alert..

Lord help us from the judges..

[Viva Le Dissention]

Yeah, and the House isn't the Senate.

The original quote was "IMHO it is time for the SENATE to institute impeachment proceedings."

The Senate can't institute impeachment proceedings because the House does that. Art. I, Sec. 2, Cl. 5.

[JimSEA]

Perhaps not and I hope you are right. However, There are many issues dividing Bush from some of his conservative base (ie. Perscription drugs, Patriot Act, Immigration Reform) that could weaken his reelection bid. At this distance from the election, I am not willing to concede a cake walk the to Republicans even if the opponent is Dean. The Kean Coimmission Report leaks are also sure to take a edge off the Saddam bounce.

[Tribune7]

Why would the 9th District have jurisdiction over Gitmo?

[oceanview]

we need a 15 year term limit for all federal judges, regardless of party affiliation. lifetime appointment to the federal bench is failing this country.

[MEG33]

I'll bet the full 9th circuit will review this.

[hankbrown]

we need a 15 year term limit for all federal judges, regardless of party affiliation. lifetime appointment to the federal bench is failing this country.

Can't really disagree with that

[John Beresford Tipton]

"Why would the 9th [Circuit] have jurisdiction over Gitmo?"

see 122

[Godfollow]

What's their phone numbers and addresses???

[angkor]

the Dem Senate would never have voted for it after 9/11

I disagree. Had GWB asked for it, he would have gotten it.

And I believe he could still make the case before America today (citing this particular incident as one reason among many), and that he'd get it.

The first pseudo-declaration was foolish, and evolved from a smoke-filled room. It grants nothing under color of law.

[angkor]

the Dem Senate would never have voted for it after 9/11

I disagree. Had GWB asked for it, he would have gotten it.

And I believe he could still make the case before America today (citing this particular incident as one reason among many), and that he'd get it.

The first pseudo-declaration was foolish, and evolved from a smoke-filled room. It grants nothing under color of law.

[Lazamataz]

what's your point?

That even Nazi prisoners of war went home.

[John Beresford Tipton]

"declaration of war against al Qaeda, et al, but that perhaps has other ramifications"

This decision has nothing to do with that, it went off on the status of Gitmo.

Govt does not want to declare war, would make all provisions of Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War applicable.

War is traditionally between states; we never declared war on a non-state.

[Viva Le Dissention]

That's true, but in many (perhaps even most), it was year(s) after the war ended.

Not one of the United States's proudest moments.

[Lazamataz]

Brother of a detainee lives in the Central District of California, and is petitioner in the application. [It's all in the opinion]

Oh, cool. I want the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals to declare Russia to be American Territory because I have a friend who visits there occasionally, who lives in California.

Makes as much sense as what these ass-clowns did today.

[Centurion2000]

How exactly do these f#$%ing traitors have jurisdiction over something in Cuba when they are on the West Coast ???

[Tribune7]

Brother of a detainee lives in the Central District of California, and is petitioner in the application. [It's all in the opinion]

F.N. credible.

[hankbrown]

Actually the court found it had jurisdiction due to the substantial federal military facilities in California (question is whether the court can get jurisdiction over Rumsfield who is the custodian of the plaintiff).

[Diogenesis]

[Lazamataz]

Actually the court found it had jurisdiction due to the substantial federal military facilities in California

Neat, that means that California has jurisdiction over military bases in Illinois.

Ass clowns.

[demlosers]

Actually the court found it had jurisdiction due to the substantial federal military facilities in California (question is whether the court can get jurisdiction over Rumsfield who is the custodian of the plaintiff).

Tortuous logic.