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Appeals Court Orders Jose Padilla released in 30 Days!
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Posted on 12/18/2003 8:10:02 AM PST by Dog

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To: John Valentine
#310

Patriot act is not the law of the land, Constitution is.
321 posted on 12/18/2003 6:34:56 PM PST by Bogie
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To: Lazamataz
The idiot justices ruled that the Congress' authorization to seek out and destroy Al Qaeda did not include the right to detain al Qaeda. Evidently you are not one of the three or four on the thread who understand the ruling. But then again, it's tough to understand when you haven't read it so I can empathise a bit.
322 posted on 12/18/2003 6:37:14 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: mrsmith
instead it bizarrely pretended that miltary force does not include military detention.

Authorising multary force by Congress certainly does not allow the US military or it's assigns to round up American citizens.

The court was correct in it's ruling.

Posse Comatitus might apply here.

323 posted on 12/18/2003 6:37:28 PM PST by Lazamataz (A poem, by Lazamataz: "What do we do with Saddam, Now that we gottim?")
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To: Lazamataz
Posse Comatitus might apply here.

Cripes.

324 posted on 12/18/2003 6:38:14 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
The idiot justices ruled that the Congress' authorization to seek out and destroy Al Qaeda did not include the right to detain al Qaeda.

If the Al Qaedee is American, the Al Qaedee has the rights of an American citizen.

End of story.

(cue sound track of jwalsh07 sobbing into his cheerios)

325 posted on 12/18/2003 6:39:36 PM PST by Lazamataz (A poem, by Lazamataz: "What do we do with Saddam, Now that we gottim?")
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To: jwalsh07
It's truly a bizarre ruling.
Would overturn 200 years of constitutional interpretation if it held- which it won't.
326 posted on 12/18/2003 6:40:04 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Lazamataz
The Constitution assigns the power to execute wars to?

A. The Second Circuit
B. The Executive
C. The ACLU

327 posted on 12/18/2003 6:41:00 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Aw hell. Yer right. Let's just do away with police forces, judges, courts, and the Constitution and run this place like Saddam did.

I get first dibs on ya, though.

328 posted on 12/18/2003 6:41:00 PM PST by Lazamataz (A poem, by Lazamataz: "What do we do with Saddam, Now that we gottim?")
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To: jwalsh07
Yes, we have to keep ourselves from being defiled.
329 posted on 12/18/2003 6:41:45 PM PST by Bogie
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To: jwalsh07
D. The Constitution forbids executing wars on American citizens by enumerating the right to life.
330 posted on 12/18/2003 6:42:11 PM PST by Lazamataz (A poem, by Lazamataz: "What do we do with Saddam, Now that we gottim?")
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To: Lazamataz
It always has- if they are combatants.


But what do you care about the Constitution? No more than these Clinton judges thank you very much.

331 posted on 12/18/2003 6:42:44 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: John Valentine
Well, it seems you do, if you enter intoe the armed forces o0f a foreign state agains the United States.

Padilla didn't do that, so, I guess he's still a citizen, to our collective shame.

But, he should still be held as a military detainee.
332 posted on 12/18/2003 6:42:52 PM PST by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: mrsmith
But what do you care about the Constitution? No more than these Clinton judges thank you very much.

Bite me.

333 posted on 12/18/2003 6:44:10 PM PST by Lazamataz (A poem, by Lazamataz: "What do we do with Saddam, Now that we gottim?")
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To: Dog
Either they have the evidence to charge him or they don't. If they do quit playing games and charge him. If they don't have the goods to charge him and take to trial then his arrest and detention is a fraud.

The Judges made the right decision. Your cannot selectively apply the Constitution to only those defendants you like.
334 posted on 12/18/2003 6:46:21 PM PST by tcuoohjohn (Follow The Money)
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To: Lazamataz
The Constitution forbids executing wars on American citizens by enumerating the right to life.

Incoherent.

335 posted on 12/18/2003 6:49:53 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
"There may be 3 or 4 people on this thread who understand that. "

In fact I don't believe any of the Freepers who just might intelligently try to defend this ruling have shown up.
Maybe there'll be some good discussion tomorrow, but I don't think anyone will go for this.

336 posted on 12/18/2003 6:50:09 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: mrsmith
The simple fact is your post was silly. There is no " renegade" provision in our law.
337 posted on 12/18/2003 6:50:09 PM PST by tcuoohjohn (Follow The Money)
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To: Lazamataz
I get first dibs on ya, though

Great, I've always had an affinty for physical violence but its been scarce of late.

338 posted on 12/18/2003 6:51:08 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: mrsmith
Yeah, gotta go myself. See ya around.
339 posted on 12/18/2003 6:52:03 PM PST by jwalsh07
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