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Frigate’s skipper relieved [USS Gary]
Navy Times ^ | December 16, 2003 | Matt Hilburn

Posted on 12/17/2003 10:34:03 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Edited on 05/07/2004 10:11:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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...failure to meet standards regarding readiness and material programs."

I take it that's a bad thing to have on your record.

1 posted on 12/17/2003 10:34:04 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Might there be a morale problem when a US Naval ship is home-ported in a foreign nation?

It's bad enough having long deployments, but having an American foreign fleet permanently stationed overseas .... ?

Why?

2 posted on 12/17/2003 10:47:29 PM PST by thinktwice (America is truly blessed ... with George W. Bush as President..)
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To: thinktwice
There's plenty of us that like being stationed overseas (USN in Japan since 1990).
3 posted on 12/17/2003 10:51:28 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: thinktwice
Might there be a morale problem when a US Naval ship is home-ported in a foreign nation?

I can't speak for others, but I loved being homeported overseas. Was homeported in Naples, Italy and Yokosuka, Japan.
The 7th Fleet is truly the Navy's tip of the sword, you WILL be called numerous times to various hotspots from the Philippine Sea to Southwest Asia but you know what you are doing is making a difference. Beats the hell out of LEO ops outside San Diego.
Jack
4 posted on 12/17/2003 10:59:38 PM PST by btcusn
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
As the Brits say,"He has well and truley blotted his copy book." IOW, he needs to start thinking real hard about his career after the Navy.
5 posted on 12/17/2003 11:00:03 PM PST by Adrastus
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
He'll be a Commander until he retires, sounds like he was on the fast track with the spot on the CNO's staff.
6 posted on 12/17/2003 11:01:36 PM PST by cryptical
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To: btcusn
The 7th Fleet is truly the Navy's tip of the sword, you WILL be called numerous times to various hotspots from the Philippine Sea to Southwest Asia but you know what you are doing is making a difference. Beats the hell out of LEO ops outside San Diego.

Yep, couldn't have said it better.

7 posted on 12/17/2003 11:59:46 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: Skwidd
ping
8 posted on 12/18/2003 12:00:15 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity; Travis McGee; harpseal
...failure to meet standards regarding readiness and material programs."

PC Crayola Performance Report speak for Gundecking Shitbird............:o)

Stay Safe !

9 posted on 12/18/2003 12:05:34 AM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The Man cant even wear his friggin dress cover properly.

I tell ya what, if Al Qaeda had any balls they'd go after anything related to the Kitty Hawk battle group. What a bunch of incompetent squids.

10 posted on 12/18/2003 1:01:12 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("This is an outrage! I'm voting for Howard Dean!" -Loserdopians)
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To: GATOR NAVY
I'm on the Vandegrift (FFG-48, for the benefit of those of you who are listening in). My ship is across the pier from the Gary in Yokosuka. I heard about CMDR Dua's firing when I came in this past Monday morning. Apparently, DESRON 15 (his boss) came onboard last Saturday and canned him on the spot, then started re-arranging the departments.

The reason? He failed INSURV. INSURV is an very important and very anal inspection. Essentially, the entire ship must be in the same material condition as it was when it was first commissioned. No rust, no tears, all of your equipment must be working as it was designed, etc. This is damn near impossible (especially for a forward-deployed frigate; especially for a Navy that is paying through the nose to test the 'beta' versions of systems for various military contractors), but you must try.

Life on the Gary looks pretty miserable right now; people are working 'round the clock and then some. My ship will be doing an INSURV inspection too; my CO is getting jumpy. I'm not looking forward to a good holiday season.

11 posted on 12/18/2003 1:52:19 AM PST by Skwidd (Fire Controlman First Class Extraordinaire)
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As a lifer, I went through many Insurvs and passed them all, even on a WWII destroyer that had failed a prior Insurv and was scheduled for decommissioning. Instead, it was refurbished and was eventually sold and was still around 50 years after it was built.

I always thought it was the crew that made the ship, but that was when I was a part of the crew. When I was on a staff, I saw how clearly the ship reflected the character of the CO. They failed Insurv because of the CO. But I will bet that there are other factors, just this one is easy to single out.
12 posted on 12/18/2003 4:48:25 AM PST by KeyWest
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To: GATOR NAVY
Spot on...
13 posted on 12/18/2003 4:52:19 AM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Skwidd
INSURV...well, that explains that. Their life will be hell for a while. Hope yours goes better.
14 posted on 12/18/2003 4:55:44 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: Skwidd
INSURV, ORSE (for nuke type ships and boats),TRE any of these inspections are hard on the crew. the preps can be so daunting that you acually look forward to the inspection after all that time *L*. And sometimes the grades can get quite political, depending on how well the CO is liked by group comanders.
15 posted on 12/18/2003 5:24:08 AM PST by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy)
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To: Skwidd
"He failed INSURV"

Did he lose his offog?

[Don't worry; it's a science-fiction in-joke, so far in it is essentially 'out']

Just to see if anyone else gets it.

--Boris

16 posted on 12/18/2003 6:51:38 AM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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To: Skwidd
Are these Perry class frigates?
17 posted on 12/18/2003 6:54:50 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Naval academy turning out some winners.
18 posted on 12/18/2003 6:54:50 AM PST by cynicom
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To: boris
What about Peaslake?

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19 posted on 12/18/2003 7:17:20 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: boris
I doubt he lost his offog or that its loss was under conditions requiring his relief, the removal of offogs from other ships, or the suspension of operations for ships with offogs. /snicker/ But you never know...
20 posted on 12/18/2003 7:41:33 AM PST by Little Ray (When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!)
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