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Libertarian Harry Browne: Bush Did Not Liberate Iraq
HarryBrowne.org ^ | Dec 15, 2003 | Harry Browne

Posted on 12/17/2003 8:04:12 PM PST by Commie Basher

Sunday's capture of Saddam Hussein made it a great day — a great day for empty rhetoric and meaningless posturing by politicians and journalists.

Somehow it was assumed by politicians and the press, without explanation, that Hussein's capture has vindicated the Bush administration's attack on Iraq. But from September 2002 to March 2003, George Bush said nothing about capturing Saddam Hussein. Instead, Bush talked incessantly about weapons of mass destruction and Iraq's ability to attack the U.S. with them — as well as Al Qaeda camps in the Iraqi desert. How does finding Saddam Hussein make Bush's claims any more true than they were last week?

We're told that that the Iraqis can see now that Saddam Hussein isn't coming back to power — as though they couldn't figure that out for themselves with 130,000 foreign troops occupying their country.

But in the wonderland occupied by politicians and journalists, the capture of Hussein must mean that all the resisters — also known as "loyalists of the old regime" — would have no more reason to resist.

Some politicians said that if anti-war protesters had their gotten way, Hussein would be in his palace today, instead of in jail. Yes, and if the anti-war protesters had gotten their way, several hundred Americans and thousands of Iraqis would be alive today, instead of dead.

The press played its part in the celebration. Wolf Blitzer of CNN said that Hussein's capture proves to the world that "the President of the United States means business" — whatever that means.

In fact, we've known all along that George Bush means business — the business of getting reelected.

There were plenty of TV pictures of Iraqis firing AK-47s into the air. But no inquiring minds bothered to ask how everyday Iraqis could be carrying AK-47s out in the open, when the American occupiers have imposed strict gun-control edicts and are at war with resisters.

What if Saddam Hussein says that all the dreaded Weapons of Mass Destruction were destroyed years ago? Well, we know that George Bush believes in preemptive strikes, and he's already made one on this front. On Monday, he said of Hussein:

He’s a liar. He’s a torturer. He’s a murderer. . . . He’s a — he’s just — he is what he is: He’s a person that was willing to destroy his country and to kill a lot of his fellow citizens. He’s a person who used weapons of mass destruction against citizens in his own country. And so it’s — he is the kind of person that is untrustworthy and I’d be very cautious about relying upon his word in any way, shape or form.

In other words, "Believe him only if he confirms what I've been telling you for the past year."

Liberation

Donald Rumsfeld said that Hussein's capture means that the Iraqis can now be free in spirit, as well as in fact.

Ah yes, liberated Iraq. It is now a free country. George Bush has liberated it.

How has Iraq been liberated? Let me count the ways . . .

1. The country is occupied by a foreign power.

2. Its officials are appointed by that foreign power.

3. Its citizens must carry ID cards.

4. They must submit to searches of their persons and cars at checkpoints and roadblocks.

5. They must be in their homes by curfew time.

6. Many towns are ringed with barbed wire.

7. The occupiers have imposed strict gun-control laws, preventing ordinary citizens from defending themselves — making robberies, rapes, and assaults quite common.

8. Trade with some countries is banned by the occupying authorities.

9. The occupiers have decreed that certain electoral outcomes won't be permitted.

10. Families are held hostage until they reveal the whereabouts of wanted resisters — much like the Nazis held innocent French people hostage during World War II.

11. Protests are outlawed.

12. Private homes are raided or demolished — with no due process of law.

13. The occupiers have created a fiat currency and imposed it on the populace.

14. Newspapers, radio stations, and TV are all supervised by the occupiers.

This is liberation in the NewSpeak language of politics.

Words like freedom just don't seem to mean what they used to, do they?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1gawdwhatanasshole; bush; harrybrowne; iraq; iraqwar; liberaltarians; libertarianparty; libertarians; losertarians; punklibertarians; saddamhussein; smurfs
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To: Capitalism2003
You see, you make the same mistake which all ideologues do. They confuse a relative good with an absolute one.
161 posted on 12/18/2003 6:55:03 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: BSunday

Oh, yeah? Browne is the professional financial advisor who filed for bankruptcy. That's doing something.

162 posted on 12/18/2003 6:58:54 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
On the top ten list of fools, certainly Harry the Clowne Brown is near the top, perhpas only Jimmy Carter and Ramsay Clark edge him out of the top spot.
163 posted on 12/18/2003 7:00:31 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: Impeach the Boy
Except Carter and Clark don't pretend to be conservative.
164 posted on 12/18/2003 7:01:29 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Cultural Jihad
Oh, yeah? Browne is the professional financial advisor who filed for bankruptcy. That's doing something.

Oops. My bad.

165 posted on 12/18/2003 7:02:16 AM PST by BSunday (Jesus is the reason for ALL seasons)
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To: Cultural Jihad
They confuse a relative good with an absolute one.

Quite similar to the ideologues who attempt to impose what they call 'morality' on innocents.

I'm talking Zero-Tolerance anti-drug and anti-violence programs, sunshine.

Ring any ideological bells?

166 posted on 12/18/2003 7:03:48 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: CWOJackson
All three of them pretend to be sane.
167 posted on 12/18/2003 7:03:52 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: Commie Basher
Harry Browne should be studied in colleges through out the world...a political science primer on how to NEVER get elected to ANYTHING by being stupid, absurd, and inane.
168 posted on 12/18/2003 7:05:39 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: autoresponder; Commie Basher

169 posted on 12/18/2003 7:11:08 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Hillary is a TRAITOR !!: http://Richard.Meek.home.comcast.net/HitlerTraitor6.JPG)
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To: Howlin
"Why is this crap continually allowed on here?"

Why shouldn't it be, my FRiend?! I consider myself to be a little "l" libertarian, but I'm as embarrassed by Harry Browne's non-sensical rantings vis a vis foreign policy as anybody. Isn't it best that folks get access to the other side, if for no other reason than to see it for the nonsense that it is?!

FReegards...MUD

170 posted on 12/18/2003 7:23:50 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: Capitalism2003
3,000 people died on September 11, including a lot of "sons". Perhaps you missed it.
171 posted on 12/18/2003 8:11:55 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Cultural Jihad
Taking your pre-emptive "they are oppressed so we should liberate them" policy to its natural conclusion means invading all of those other countries. Why is freedom for Iraq more important than freedom for them? Why shouldn't we liberate the people of all arab/communist dictatorships?
If it's worth our blood in Iraq, why not Cuba, Syria, Iran, etc? Do you have an answer?
172 posted on 12/18/2003 8:21:03 AM PST by Capitalism2003 (Got principles? http://www.LP.org)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Not one hijacker was an Iraqi. Perhaps you missed it. If we wanted to attack someone, it should definately have been the terrorist government of Saudi Arabia...but I believe I saw Bush HUGGING the towelhead leaders of that country a few months ago... allies?
173 posted on 12/18/2003 8:26:05 AM PST by Capitalism2003 (Got principles? http://www.LP.org)
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To: Capitalism2003
I suppose that if you saw 3 old ladies being mugged and had the opportuntiy to help one of them, you'd just pass on by. Better to have all 3 old ladies be victimized when you could have only helped one of them at a time, right?

In other words: Your argument is a joke.
174 posted on 12/18/2003 8:26:18 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Capitalism2003
It's rather apparent you either don't pay any attention to the news of the day and comment on issues anyway, or you are simply chosing to not be truthful. In either case, our discussion is over. There's no use in engaging in dialogue with people who refuse to use either facts or common sense to back up what they are saying. Good day.
175 posted on 12/18/2003 8:31:26 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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chosing=choosing
176 posted on 12/18/2003 8:35:37 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Capitalism2003
WE all know your constitutionalist sewage too well. You spew it like a perpetual case of diahrrea.

You have to actually make sense as well if you wish to sway people into believing your rhetoric and so far, your argument is at best, comical.

All I can gather from your rants is you are determined to cut your nose off because your face is not happy.

177 posted on 12/18/2003 8:39:27 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Libertarians are LOOOOOOSERS!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
There's nothing wrong with so-called 'safety nets'

Of course there's something wrong with them.

178 posted on 12/18/2003 9:41:37 AM PST by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: DesertSapper
Just another reason I can't take libertarians seriously

Please do not confuse small-l libertarians, such as those in the Republican Liberty Caucus with the fruitcakes in the LP. Of course, the FR nanny-state crowd dislikes us almost as much.

179 posted on 12/18/2003 9:45:08 AM PST by jmc813 (Help save a life - www.marrow.org)
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To: freeangel; Howlin; Amelia; Southflanknorthpawsis; justshe; Chad Fairbanks; ...

Why is this crap continually allowed on here?
20 howlin

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The structure for such a 'FR Party' exists inside the GOP..
Some time ago JR tried to spark some interest by creating & endorsing a separate forum for the RLC position.

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Obviously, the libertarian haters on this site would rather trash our constitution than work with us in its restoration.

180 posted on 12/18/2003 10:14:21 AM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Rickenbacker in me.JR)
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