Dubious Link Between Atta and Saddam

Newsweek ^ | 12/17/03 | Isikoff & Hosenball

[Buck W.]

Dec. 17 - A widely publicized Iraqi document that purports to show that September 11 hijacker Mohammed Atta visited Baghdad in the summer of 2001 is probably a fabrication that is contradicted by U.S. law-enforcement records showing Atta was staying at cheap motels and apartments in the United States when the trip presumably would have taken place, according to U.S. law enforcement officials and FBI documents.

[Joe_October]

...It implies that Democrats have been wilfully blind to major and direct state sponsored threat and actions against the United States ...

Democrats know the same as Republicans that there is a connection. They have to deny it or as you indicate, they have to admit very painful truths about themselves.

[Deb]

Yeah, and there's no blue dress either.

[okie01]

According to the invaluable work of denydenydeny, the Annotated Timeline of the 9/11 Hijackers, Atta is accounted for on only two other specific days in June -- the 12th (when he helped al-Shehhi move into an apartment) and the 13th, when Atta himself moved into an apartment.

The rest of June, before the 27th, is wide open -- at least so far as the published sources are concerned.

[Joe_October]

...Help needed please. I have a liberal who claims that Bush never said that "Liberating Iraq" was a goal before the invasion. Can someone help me find the appropriate quotes to counter this false claim....

Sorry guy, if a rat is asking that question, they don't care for the truth. They are sick people.

[Deb]

It took ten years to trace the Pan-Am bombing back to Qidafi. Abu Nidal was murdered by Saddam for some reason and nothing makes more sense than that he trained Atta.

[Deb]

When journalists write about the "FBI" or the "CIA", they should have to specify whether it's a Clinton hold-over or a Bush hire. Our biggest internal threats come from the mischief of Clinton hold-overs.

[Calpernia]

>>>"missing 7 days" in Europe from July 4-July 11

On or about July 8, 2001, Mohammed Atta (#11) purchased a knife in Zurich, Switzerland. So that is some time accounted for during that 7 day trip.

[Deb]

Nobody in the administration "intoned" anything about the Saddam-9/11 link. All they have ever said was that there was no evidence.

That doesn't mean there was no link. The burden of proof has been made purposely high by GW & Co. because of the way the Democrats and other Marxists use every issue like a club. But according to David Kay there are lots of connections and when a full file can be presented...it will prove Saddam used bin Laden to strike at the US.

Bet me.

[Cicero]

It looks to me as if George Tenet or someone in the Administration is mounting a campaign to discredit the Atta connection. This story comes out at the same time as the James Risen story in the New York Times.

Shermy has noted on the current Risen thread that Risen was also the guy chosen to lie about the story last year.

Spin, spin, spin.

[ABrit]

A few comments on the info above:

1 a) It was British intelligence that made, and still makes the claim about Iraq's attempt to get "yellow cake" from Niger.

b) The forged document used to discredit the Niger claim, was supplied by the French.

c) This indicates that British intelligence are not relying only on the forged document.

2 a) The indictment says that several suspects for 9/11 used a gym in Oklahoma City as a meeting place. The question arises, as to how long it had been used, and was there a connection to the Okalahoma City Bomb.

3 a) News today, "Nelson said the senators were told Iraq had both biological and chemical weapons, notably anthrax, and it could deliver them to cities along the Eastern seaboard via unmanned aerial vehicles, commonly known as drones." story By John McCarthy FLORIDA TODAY (http://www.floridatoday.com/!NEWSROOM/localstoryN1216NELSON.htm)
b)This raises the question as to why, if classified briefings were given to the Senate, to the effect that Iraq had Anthrax, why Iraq, or it's agents were not flagged up as potential perpetrators of the Anthrax attacks. Why more was not made of reports that Atta had unusual "burn marks" on his hands, and why he sought medication for them.
4 a)Why is it that all the way from the first World Trade Centre bombing, through Oklahoma City, 9/11, and the Anthrax attacks, the Iraq connection has been consistently downplayed by everyone in political power, the law enforcement agencies, and leaks to the media?

4 a)As it seems that The French, German, and Russians did everthing in their power to keep Saddam in power, and were in effect his allies; how much do they, and the Saudis, Pakistanis, Syrians, Iranians, and others know about these, and other events?

[eastforker]

My 2 cents worth. There may be a very good reason the present administration does not want all this info tied together. Stay with me here for a moment. It seems that this administration has covered for the previous 8 years to preserve the Honor of the office of the U S President. We or should I say most of us believe Clinton was up to his neck in cover up and deceit from WTC 1 to OKC and beyond.If all this info was tied together and proved that the US Government was in some way involved or knew what was going on and did nothing to stop it ,the US would be portrayed in a very dim light. Just a thought.Many government heads would roll and could cause major uprisings not only here but around the world.

[ABrit]

I hope there is "good reason"! If your theory is correct, why would Bush keep Tenant as head of the FBI?

[ABrit]

I hope there is "good reason"! If your theory is correct, why would Bush keep Tenant as head of the FBI?

[ABrit]

Oops. For FBI, read CIA.

[eastforker]

Good question, actually there are many questions and few will ever be answered. Each and every one of us has a thought about what is going on but none of us know for sure and I doubt if any one individual does either. Our President is not an all knowing all seeing figure. Many things go on he is neither privy to or has control of. Imagine being the head of a gigantic corporation as big as the US government and knowing everything that goes on and acting on every aspect. That would be virtually impossible.

[John Valentine]

I would never take that bet, because your side is a sure winner.

If Saddam wasn't behind BOTH attacks on the WTC, I'll eat my unders in Times Square.

[Fledermaus]

Dubious?

Newsweek is written and edited by morons.

[Mr. Mojo]

as it certainly has not been carried by mainstream media,

Lou Dobbs (of CNN) has reported the story several times. (He's been on fire lately, with daily segments on illegal aliens and the outsourcing of jobs to the third world). FNC has also been reporting it quite regularly.