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Dubious Link Between Atta and Saddam
Newsweek ^
| 12/17/03
| Isikoff & Hosenball
Posted on 12/17/2003 4:30:22 PM PST by Buck W.
Edited on 12/17/2003 4:43:19 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator.
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Dec. 17 - A widely publicized Iraqi document that purports to show that September 11 hijacker Mohammed Atta visited Baghdad in the summer of 2001 is probably a fabrication that is contradicted by U.S. law-enforcement records showing Atta was staying at cheap motels and apartments in the United States when the trip presumably would have taken place, according to U.S. law enforcement officials and FBI documents.
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911hijackers; alqaedaandiraq; atta; czechatta; habbush; iraq; iraqandalqaeda; isikoff; saddam; terror
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Thoughts?
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posted on
12/17/2003 4:30:23 PM PST
by
Buck W.
To: Buck W.
"Mohammad Atta" is a common nickname in the Arab world, isn't it?
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posted on
12/17/2003 4:34:48 PM PST
by
thoughtomator
(The Federal judiciary is a terrorist organization)
To: Buck W.
The Telegraph story was apparently written with a political purpose:Of course this Newsweak "story" wasn't written for a political purpose.
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posted on
12/17/2003 4:35:02 PM PST
by
Rome2000
(McCarthy was right!)
To: Buck W.
Well, "widely publicized Iraqi document" is very innaccurate, as it certainly has not been carried by mainstream media, which is where most people get their news. The mainstream media has a vested interest in discounting this memo, and, I notice this article does not name the FBI officials.
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posted on
12/17/2003 4:38:26 PM PST
by
stylin_geek
(Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count)
To: Buck W.
He could have been paying rent on his "cheap motels" and still traveling abroad. I don't trust much that comes out of Newsweek, not without a lot of verification.
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posted on
12/17/2003 4:39:23 PM PST
by
MizSterious
(First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
To: Buck W.
I just happen to be in the middle of an argument on another board about this.
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posted on
12/17/2003 4:41:53 PM PST
by
RandallFlagg
("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
To: Buck W.; Shermy; swarthyguy; Angelus Errare
Was it beyond Atta to create a false trail so as to hide his movements? I wonder how much of the FBI's evidence is positively linked to Atta himself.
To: aristeides
Mark for later read.
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posted on
12/17/2003 4:48:11 PM PST
by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
Comment #9 Removed by Moderator
To: Peach
I ran across this a couple of weeks ago
http://slate.msn.com/id/2091354/ Prague Revisited
The evidence of an Iraq/al-Qaida connection hasn't gone away.
By Edward Jay Epstein
Updated Wednesday, Nov. 19, 2003, at 9:58 AM PT
Partners in crime?
This month, I went to Prague to meet with Czech officials who had directly handled the pre-9/11 expulsion of a senior Iraqi diplomat, a case that would became known as the Prague Connection. Because it goes to the heart of the issue of whether Saddam Hussein might have played a role in the attack on the World Trade Center, this controversy has continued to rage, without any satisfying conclusion, for more than two years.
The background: On April 21, 2001, the CIA's liaison officer at the U.S. Embassy in Prague was briefed by the Czech counterintelligence service (known by its Czech acronym, BIS) about an extraordinary development in a spy case that concerned both the United States and the Czech Republic. The subject of the briefing was Ahmad Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani, the consul at Iraq's embassy in Prague.
The reason there had been joint Czech-American interest in the case traced back to the December 1998 when al-Ani's predecessor at the Iraq Embassy, Jabir Salim, defected from his post. In his debriefings, Salim said that he had been supplied with $150,000 by Baghdad to prepare a car-bombing of an American target, the Prague headquarters of Radio Free Europe. (This bombing never took place because Salim could not recruit a bomber.)
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So when al-Ani replaced Salim at the Iraq Embassy in Prague in 1999, both the United States and the Czech Republic wanted him closely watched in case he had a similar assignment. The BIS handled the surveillance through its own full-time teams and its network of part-time "watchers" at hotels, restaurants, and other likely locations. Then, on April 8, 2001, a BIS watcher saw al-Ani meeting in a restaurant outside Prague with an Arab man in his 20s. This set off alarm bells because a BIS informant in the Arab community had provided information indicating that the person with whom al-Ani was meeting was a visiting "student" from Hamburgand one who was potentially dangerous.
On my trip, I spoke to Jan Kavan, who in 2001 was foreign minister and coordinator of intelligence. According to Kavanwho to my knowledge has not spoken publicly about this episode beforeal-Ani had previously been spotted taking photos of the headquarters of Radio Free Europe. In this context, the restaurant meeting suggested that al-Ani might be recruiting someone to resume the bombing plot. Adding to the tension, the BIS lost track of the "student." So Kavan decided to act: He ordered al-Ani out of the Czech Republic.
During the next 48 hours, as al-Ani prepared his hasty departure, the CIA liaison called both the BIS liaison and the Czech National Security Office for further details about the expulsion, which presumably he then passed on to the FBI and other relevant parties. Kavan's able deputy, Hynek Kmonicek, arranged for al-Ani to exit via Vienna, Austria. As far as Kavan was concerned, the al-Ani problem was, if not resolved, then in the hands of American intelligence
The issue re-emerged three days after the 9/11 attack when the CIA intelligence liaison was told by the BIS that the Hamburg "student" who had met with al-Ani on April 8 had been tentatively identified as the 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta. Since al-Ani was an officer of Saddam Hussein's intelligence (and diplomatic) service, this identification raised the possibility that Saddam might have had a hand in the 9/11 attack. It could also be potentially embarrassing, as Kavan pointed out, "if American intelligence had failed before 9/11 to adequately appreciate the significance of the April meeting."
Kavan, in the newly created position of coordinator for intelligence, was in the center of the ensuing "crisis," as he termed it. He gave the FBI full access to the Czech side of the investigation. Two Czech-speaking FBI agents were allowed not only to sit in on the high-level task force evaluating the intelligence but to examine source material. If Atta was at the meeting, he could not have used his own passport to enter the Czech Republic, so the BIS assumed he had used a false identity and began checking through visa records for suspicious visitors in April, examining grainy videotapes from cameras at airports, bus stations, and game arcades. As the investigation was still in an early stage, the FBI had been asked to keep the identification of Atta secret, but within a week, the Prague connection was leaked to the pressfrom Washington. On Sept. 18, 2001, the Associated Press reported, "A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the United States has received information from a foreign intelligence service that Mohamed Atta, a hijacker aboard one of the planes that slammed into the World Trade Center, met earlier this year in Europe with an Iraqi intelligence agent." CBS then reported that Atta had been seen with al-Ani.
In Washington, the FBI moved to quiet the Prague connection by telling journalists that it had car rentals and records that put Atta in Virginia Beach, Va., and Florida close to, if not during, the period when he was supposed to be in Prague. The New York Times, citing information provided by "federal law enforcement officials," reported that Atta was in Virginia Beach on April 2, 2001, and by April 11, "Atta was back in Florida, renting a car." Newsweek reported that, "the FBI pointed out Atta was traveling at the time [in early April 2001] between Florida and Virginia Beach, Va.," adding, "The bureau had his rental car and hotel receipts." And intelligence expert James Bamford, after quoting FBI Director Robert Mueller as saying that the FBI "ran down literally hundreds of thousands of leads and checked every record we could get our hands on," reported in USA Today, "The records revealed that Atta was in Virginia Beach during the time he supposedly met the Iraqi in Prague."
All these reports attributed to the FBI were, as it turns out, erroneous. There were no car rental records in Virginia, Florida, or anywhere else in April 2001 for Mohamed Atta, since he had not yet obtained his Florida license. His international license was at his father's home in Cairo, Egypt (where his roommate Marwan al-Shehhi picked it up in late April). Nor were there other records in the hands of the FBI that put Atta in the United States at the time. Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet testified to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in June 2002, "It is possible that Atta traveled under an unknown alias" to "meet with an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague." Clearly, it was not beyond the capabilities of the 9/11 hijackers to use aliases.
But just because Atta could have been in Prague did not mean that he met al-Ani there on April 8, 2001. Eyewitness identification can often be mistaken. It was known, however, that Atta had business in Prague prior to the 9/11 attack. Kmonicek, the deputy foreign minister, had found a paper trail of passport records showing that Atta had applied for a visa to visit the Czech Republic on May 26, 2000 in Bonn, Germany. Atta must have had business there, since he could have transited through the Czech Republic on Czech Air without a visa.
Atta's business appeared to be extremely time sensitive and specific to May 30. When Atta learned in Hamburg that his Czech visa would not be ready until May 31, he nevertheless flew on May 30 to the Prague International Airport, where he would not be allowed to go beyond the transit lounge. Although a large part of this area is surveiled by cameras, he managed to spend all but a few minutes out of their range. After some six hours, he then caught a flight back to Hamburg. From this visaless round trip, Czech intelligence inferred that Atta had a meeting on May 30 that could not wait, even a dayand that whoever arranged it was probably familiar with the transit lounge's surveillance. Finally, the BIS determined that the Prague connection was not limited to a single appointment since Atta returned to Prague by bus on June 2 (now with visa BONN200005260024), and, after a brief wait in the bus station, disappeared for nearly 20 hours before catching a flight to the United States.
The Czechs reviewing these visits in retrospect further assumed that Atta's business in Prague was somehow related to his activities in the United States, given that large sums of laundered funds began to flow to the 9/11 conspiracy in June 2000, after Atta left Prague. Even more ominous, if the BIS's subsequent identification of Atta in Prague was accurate, then some part of the mechanism behind the activities of hijacker-terrorists may have been based in Prague at least until mid April 2001.
Czech intelligence services could not solve this puzzle without access to crucial information about Atta's movements in the United States, Germany, and other countries in which the plot unfolded, but it soon became clear that such cooperation would not be forthcoming. Even after al-Ani was taken prisoner by U.S. forces in Iraq in July 2003 and presumably questioned about Atta, no report was furnished to the Czech side of the investigation. "It was anything but a two-way street," a top Czech government official overseeing the case explained. "The FBI wanted complete control. The FBI agents provided us with nothing from their side of the investigation."
Without those missing piecesincluding cell phone logs, credit card charges, and interrogation records in the FBI's possessionthe jigsaw puzzle remains incomplete.
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posted on
12/17/2003 4:51:33 PM PST
by
Pikamax
To: Buck W.
I find the Newsweek article to be a little more convincing than the Telegraph piece, but that isn't saying very much.
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posted on
12/17/2003 4:52:29 PM PST
by
squidly
(Politics are very much like war. We may even have to use poison gas at times.)
To: stylin_geek
This document must be fabricated because if it's not the Democrats are totally sunk.
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posted on
12/17/2003 4:52:53 PM PST
by
Callahan
To: Buck W.
I thought the documentary link between Atta and Saddam was a little too specific and convenient to be true. More reliable info should be forthcoming at The Trial of the Century when the Iraqis put Saddam in the dock.
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posted on
12/17/2003 4:56:47 PM PST
by
Argus
((Ninety-nine and forty-four one-hundredths percent Pure Reactionary))
To: Buck W.
...contradicted by U.S. law-enforcement records showing Atta was staying at cheap motels and apartments in the United States There is some confusion here. That wasn't Atta. That was AlGore.
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posted on
12/17/2003 4:58:51 PM PST
by
Mark
(Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
To: Pikamax
Your story indicates that the FBI was "misdirecting" attention from its Praugue investigation by LYING about the docments (motels and car bills) to NEWSWEEK!
Then, NEWSWEEK uses those LIES to discredit the current NEWS!
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posted on
12/17/2003 5:01:08 PM PST
by
Robert A Cook PE
(I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
To: Pikamax
That's a very interesting, well researched article that I had missed. Thanks for posting it.
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posted on
12/17/2003 5:04:28 PM PST
by
Peach
(The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
To: Buck W.
Reminds me of Pravda in the Soviet Union days. You didn't know about anything happening until it was officially denied.
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posted on
12/17/2003 5:06:24 PM PST
by
Nateman
(HOWARD MahajiDEAN is nuts!)
To: Nateman
the comment section of the article is interesting as well
Christopher Hitchens Responds:
I have only just read Edward Epstein's contribution to the continuing argument about an Iraq-Al Quaeda connection. Anyone who knows either of us knows that Mr. Epstein and I dislike each other intensely, so I thought it only right that I should confirm one aspect of his essay from my own knowledge.
Last fall I paid a visit to Jan Kavan, the former Czech foreign minister who had become chairman of that session of the United Nations General Assembly. Mr Kavan and I have been friends for many years. My ostensible reason for accepting his invitation to call upon him was this: I wanted to introduce him to a Kurdish official who had observer status at the UN. Only later in the conversation did I think to ask him about the much-debated and seemingly-discredited story of a meeting in Prague between Mohammed Atta and the Ba'athist envoy al-Ani. To my surprise, Mr Kavan was able to give direct evidence of his own role in this investigation (including the deportation order he had served on al-Ani) and to say that in his opinion there was at least a "sixty five per cent chance" that the meeting with Atta had in fact occurred.
I know that Jan Kavan is a very meticulous person and so I asked him why he had chosen the "sixty five per cent", rather than, say, fifty. He replied that it was because he thought the likelihood of the meeting was at least that high. He added that he had no idea what was discussed, or would have been discussed, had the meeting been confirmed beyond doubt.
It may not be irrelevant to mention that Mr Kavan, though highly professional as a diplomat and as a minister, is very far from being a sympathiser of the Bush administration. At the time we met, the rift between the administration and the UN over Iraq was in the process of becoming acute.
Last fall, I did not feel I had his permission to quote him on a subject which had not been part of our original agenda, and so I refrained from citing him by name. Now that he has gone on record I would like to add this earlier indication that he knew what he was talking about - a rare quality in the present debate.
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posted on
12/17/2003 5:11:03 PM PST
by
Pikamax
To: aristeides; TurtleTrap; okie01
I thought it was false before, as I posted here...now I see Isikoff's name attached to a denial, so maybe I'll change my mind.
Isikoff was used to defame the Atta in Prague story too. Some faction in the CIA or State is using him. Isikoff at Newsweek and most anyone at the NYTimes seem to be the choice places for disinformation leaks.
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posted on
12/17/2003 5:11:07 PM PST
by
Shermy
To: Buck W.
Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and GW have all come out stating that there is no credible link between Saddam and the September 11 attacks. On this point I tend to believe them. Hovever, they spent the better part of the buildup intoning that there was a link. If this document were legitimate, I believe the administration would be shouting it from the rooftops. They are not.
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