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Early Man's Carvings Found In Germany
Ananova ^ | 12-17-2003

Posted on 12/17/2003 4:00:53 PM PST by blam

Early man's carvings found in Germany

Small figurines believed to be carved from mammoth ivory more than 30,000 years ago have been discovered in a cave in southern Germany.

Among the earliest undisputed artworks ever found, they are providing new clues into the migration and religious beliefs of early humans.

The figurines depict a water bird, what appears to be a horse's head and a lion-man.

The one-inch lion-man is similar to a near one-foot-long figurine previously found in a nearby valley, which had been cited as evidence of shamanism - the belief that spirits can be influenced by priests known as shamans.

Birds, especially water birds, are known to be favourite shamanistic symbols, which means "advocates of the shamanistic hypothesis are going to be very happy about these finds," said study author Nicholas Conard.

The two-inch bird is extremely lifelike, with a well-formed head and eyes and the neck stretching out as if in flight. Conard said the figurine appears to be the oldest known representation of a bird, although an owl depicted in a French cave may be as old.

While early man is often seen as brutish, the findings add to evidence that "the first modern humans in Europe were in fact astonishingly precocious artists," University of Liverpool archaeologist Anthony Sinclair wrote in a commentary accompanying the paper. Both appear in the journal Nature.

The researchers believe the figurines, found in the Hohle Fels cave in the Ach Valley, were created by early anatomically modern humans and not their Neanderthal predecessors.(BS, there's no way they can know this.)

Radiocarbon dating used to date the carvings is inexact, but the objects were almost certainly made between 28,000 and 35,000 years ago, and probably between 32,000 to 34,000 years ago, Sinclair said.

© Associated Press

Story filed: 18:01 Wednesday 17th December 2003


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carvings; early; found; germany; godsgravesglyphs

1 posted on 12/17/2003 4:00:53 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
the first modern humans in Europe were in fact astonishingly precocious artists

Early euroweenies.

2 posted on 12/17/2003 4:04:51 PM PST by Huck
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To: farmfriend
Tiny Sculptures Are Oldest Artworks In World
3 posted on 12/17/2003 4:05:16 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Ich bin ein Bird-lioner.
4 posted on 12/17/2003 4:23:59 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Ich bin ein Tagliner.)
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To: Huck

Comorant

Horse

Half-human, Half-lion

5 posted on 12/17/2003 4:25:43 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
It figures. The germans steal anything.
6 posted on 12/17/2003 4:36:15 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: blam
Looks like the horse has a halter on. I guess those primite brutish ancient men were wandering around on horseback.
7 posted on 12/17/2003 4:42:39 PM PST by NotQuiteCricket (http://www.strangesolutions.com)
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To: blam
Writing "Og waz heer" in yellow script should count as "Ort".
8 posted on 12/17/2003 5:04:08 PM PST by FreedomFarmer (Extreme Cow Racing Champion.)
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blam comments:   "(BS, there's no way they can know this.)"

LOL, gosh I love seeing someone that actually uses his brain, rather than just numbly reading what's in front of him and nodding his head! "Researchers believe..." is not science. Good catch.

--Boot Hill

9 posted on 12/17/2003 5:07:27 PM PST by Boot Hill
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To: blam
Hey, they got a bucket full of those things sittin on the counter down at the local convenience store...A buck apiece...How many ya want???
10 posted on 12/17/2003 5:15:12 PM PST by Iscool
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To: blam

And they had cleaning lady drawings also!
11 posted on 12/17/2003 5:55:24 PM PST by keithtoo (DEAN - He's Dukaki-riffic!!!! - He's McGovern-ous!!! - He's Mondale-agorical!!!)
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To: Huck
"the first modern humans in Europe were in fact astonishingly precocious artists"

This is just another version of the old Evol-Doer line: "Sudden appearance and fully formed"

Interesting fact for the day! Evolution is the most dominant religion on the planet, with over 3 billion followers, and clerics in white lab coats.

12 posted on 12/17/2003 5:58:15 PM PST by keithtoo (DEAN - He's Dukaki-riffic!!!! - He's McGovern-ous!!! - He's Mondale-agorical!!!)
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To: blam; *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; abner; Alas Babylon!; Andyman; annyokie; bd476; BiffWondercat; ...
Gods, Graves, Glyphs
List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this ping list.

13 posted on 12/17/2003 7:59:37 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: blam
                              Turkey

FGS

14 posted on 12/18/2003 4:26:17 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: keithtoo
"Evolution is the most dominant religion on the planet,"

Come on, evolution has nothing to do with religion. If God showed up on the evening news and announced he'd created the world through A) immediate creation OR B) evolution OR C) some combination, you would still wake up the next morning confronted with the same questions of morality and salvation of the soul.

15 posted on 12/18/2003 7:12:11 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote
Whatever God chose to do in your hypothetical example, Evol-Doers are evangellicaly pushing their 'belief system' on others.

re·li·gion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn) n.

1. a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creat[ing]or and govern[ing]or of the universe
1. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

No one has ever observed anything evolve, period. It is a belief system with no scientific proof. At best, the accolytes of Evolution use inferences based on supposed evidences and call them proof. But these proofs only prove their prejudices, not of cold scientific observation.

16 posted on 12/18/2003 8:16:10 AM PST by keithtoo (DEAN - He's Dukaki-riffic!!!! - He's McGovern-ous!!! - He's Mondale-agorical!!!)
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To: FastCoyote
...you would still wake up the next morning confronted with the same questions of morality and salvation of the soul.

Based on what, animal instinct? I think not. In the beginning, there was God who created it all; some of which may or may not have evolved. Takes faith in something in any case; there's no proof I'm aware of. The evos want to replace God with muck and lightning; THAT's the problem.

FGS

17 posted on 12/18/2003 11:13:22 AM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: FastCoyote
"Evolution is the most dominant religion on the planet,"

Evolution might be number two; football is number one.

18 posted on 12/18/2003 7:44:55 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: philetus
BTTT
19 posted on 02/06/2004 5:32:30 PM PST by carpio
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