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Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 17 December 2003 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 12/17/2003 3:05:36 PM PST by Congressman Billybob

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To: Congressman Billybob
"When the government is embarrassed by losing a slam duck case on a questionable law, it sometimes backs away, treats it as a dead letter and refuses to enforce it."

Enforcement of immigration law immediately comes to mind, John. Count me in (in as much as I'm abled to participate). Best regards with the "Thousand Points of Law" - sort of like a spinoff from the "Thousand Points of Light" theme of '89.

101 posted on 12/18/2003 6:41:38 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Congressman Billybob
I, too, agree with Jim Robinson, and applaud you on not asking for money.

Where would a person not send money if he wasn't so inclined?

102 posted on 12/18/2003 7:20:18 AM PST by Lazamataz (A poem, by Lazamataz: "What do we do with Saddam, Now that we gottim?")
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To: A Citizen Reporter; ABG(anybody but Gore); Angelwood; arazitjh; b4its2late; backhoe; bamafour; ...
pinging my ping lists and hoping others will do the same ....
103 posted on 12/18/2003 7:23:43 AM PST by kayak (We got him!)
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To: Dog Gone
Sure, he's a martyr, but I'm convinced that he volunteered to sacrifice the cause so that he could run for governor on the martyr ticket.

This is out of line - you can't see a motive, can you? No you can't. I think you had better worry about your own motives rather than making assumptions about the motives of others. You got evidence for this statement? If not, keep your ruminations to yourself.

104 posted on 12/18/2003 7:28:40 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Count me in. While I won't waste my time writing letters to any Republican'ts (my own term), I do believe in civil disobedience! I receently read Francis Schaeffer's "Christian Manifesto" wherein Dr. Schaeffer proposed civil disobedience as the best means to change society. I pray that the movement will catch on!

I also believe in starting a movement to BOLT the GOP and start a new PRINCIPLED party, a party that gives a flip about the U.S. Constitution!

105 posted on 12/18/2003 7:33:33 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: exmarine
I have to supply evidence to you for my opinions or keep them to myself?

ROFL.

106 posted on 12/18/2003 7:37:17 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Roy Moore is a hero in my book. You, who haven't done squat, have the temerity to criticize a man who sacrificed his career on moral principle....who are you?

You can post your opinions, but I can also rip them to pieces.

107 posted on 12/18/2003 7:38:48 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: exmarine; billbears
"I also believe in starting a movement to BOLT the GOP and start a new PRINCIPLED party, a party that gives a flip about the U.S. Constitution!"

Agree! so long as it retains the right to excommunicate Constitutional Principle violators.

108 posted on 12/18/2003 7:40:33 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: azhenfud
Agree! so long as it retains the right to excommunicate Constitutional Principle violators.

Agreed...it would be principled if it didn't police itself.

109 posted on 12/18/2003 7:43:57 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: exmarine
I'm an attorney who looked at what Moore did, and how he chose to do it. In my opinion, he went out of his way to lose the case. The alternative is that he is an incompetent attorney and judge, and I don't think that's the reason.

I think he did it so that he could be a hero to you and people like you. In the process, he made the situation worse than it was before he began.

You are free to disagree. I don't care.

110 posted on 12/18/2003 7:49:39 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: exmarine
I'd prefer to move the GOP to the right, rather than the hopeless task of starting from scratch. AS third party has no way to gain traction.

With the winner take all voting in the presidential and senate elections, there is no hope of a right-wing third party winning (except with a celebrity candidate that is not true to the full ideals of the party). IMHO.

A third party on the right is the only hope for the Socialists for the forseeable future, I certainly don't want to help give it to them.
111 posted on 12/18/2003 7:49:49 AM PST by RobFromGa (Bring Us Your Talented Individuals, Your Visionaries Yearning to Be Free. Keep the Huddled Masses)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Email sent and hope to hear from you
112 posted on 12/18/2003 7:52:59 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Those who do not accept peaceful change make a violent bloody revolution inevitable.)
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To: RobFromGa
I'd prefer to move the GOP to the right, rather than the hopeless task of starting from scratch. AS third party has no way to gain traction.

The problem is that these unprincipled politicians do not listen to the people. They listen to the special interests and pay homage to the gods of political correctness and retaining a seat in Congress. I have learned that writing letters to these people is a colossal waste of time - they have a canned answer (and a staff) to placate the sheeple.

The only way it will be possible to change the GOP is to get their attention by bolting EN MASSE. For example, if James Dobson urged his listeners to bolt, and other Christian leaders also woke up (it's high time!) to the fact that all of life is spiritual and that we are in a culture war with secular humanists for the survival of Christianity in America, that would be the end of the GOP unless they immediately changed their ways. The GOP cannot survive without evangelicals. They would go the way of the Whigs.

A third party on the right is the only hope for the Socialists for the forseeable future, I certainly don't want to help give it to them.

Frankly, the GOP are socialists, so what would we be losing? This thing may have to be built from the ground up, just like the American Revolution.

113 posted on 12/18/2003 7:57:35 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Dog Gone
I think he did it so that he could be a hero to you and people like you. In the process, he made the situation worse than it was before he began.

People like me? And what kind of people is that?

I haven't seen anyone else with the testicles to do anything. What have you done lately? Do you work on the staff of the ACLJ or Thomas More Law Center...or are you one of those "legal positivists" in the dubious tradition of Charles Evans Hughes?

114 posted on 12/18/2003 8:01:09 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Dog Gone
What kind of people am I? Inquring minds want to know...
115 posted on 12/18/2003 8:22:35 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: exmarine
I agree about GOP being socialists. Every year they could pull a reverse Lautenberg Amendment and get rid of a lot of cr*p (including CRF imho), but they never do. They are showing their true colors when individual rights continue to be whittled away rather than restored.

116 posted on 12/18/2003 9:08:14 AM PST by SteveH
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To: exmarine
You're one of those people who believe so strongly in the cause that Moore championed that you can't imagine for a moment that you have been manipulated by your own hero.

It was a great political strategy on his part. His political career is bright because he can use his self-inflicted martyrdom to rally the voters.

117 posted on 12/18/2003 10:17:12 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Porterville
the Feds are out to break the backs of the states.

With assistance from the UN they will fo it.

118 posted on 12/18/2003 10:17:43 AM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: Dog Gone
It was a great political strategy on his part. His political career is bright because he can use his self-inflicted martyrdom to rally the voters.

If you have evidence for this ulterior motive, let's have it. Otherwise, I'm sure you won't mind listing what you have done to advance the cause of Constitutional freedoms?

119 posted on 12/18/2003 10:21:30 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Congressman Billybob; SteveH
You Will Be Delphi'd if you continue like this on FR!

exmarine, Frankly, the GOP are socialists, so what would we be losing?

SteveH,I agree about GOP being socialists.

Avoiding_Sulla, I think that Statist forces are far too chummy with the Left, and even count on the Leftist bogeymen to help them make gains at the expense of true conservatives

StoneColdGOP, Well said, and quite correct. Correct on all counts.

120 posted on 12/18/2003 10:24:36 AM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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