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Ten Lessons (If you only read one non-Steyn article today, this should be it!)
The Wall Street Journal via dennisprager.com ^ | Daecember 17, 2003 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 12/17/2003 1:46:02 PM PST by quidnunc

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To: quidnunc
7. In the Arab world, power is venerated. For years leading up to 9/11, Islamists were respected for their increasing power and America was losing respect as it suffered blows at the hands of Islamic terror. Now America is seen as the powerful one, and is earning the respect once accorded Saddam and Osama. The importance of this cannot be overstated.

BUMP!!!
21 posted on 12/17/2003 3:30:07 PM PST by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug and Holier- than- Thou Socialist)
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To: quidnunc
Excellent post. Save for later.
22 posted on 12/17/2003 3:38:01 PM PST by Sergio (...but mine goes to 11.)
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To: Elsie; AndrewC; jennyp; lockeliberty; RadioAstronomer; LiteKeeper; Fester Chugabrew; ...
Ping!
23 posted on 12/17/2003 3:54:21 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: KantianBurke
My point was simply that our fighting forces should ONLY be used against bad guys who are a threat to US!

How quickly some have forgotten the most rudimentary precepts of the Reagan Doctrine.

24 posted on 12/17/2003 4:49:10 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Paleo conservatives believe in a more restrictive use of force. Coming from the neo conservative tradition, I believe that America should employ force not just to advance our national interests but to promote freedom and justice. After all, it IS the American Way.
25 posted on 12/17/2003 4:55:26 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
I believe that America should employ force not just to advance our national interests but to promote freedom and justice. After all, it IS the American Way.

Hear, hear, sir! :)

26 posted on 12/17/2003 5:02:52 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: quidnunc
I missed a good Prager show. I'd switch from Rush to Prager when Rush was "out" or I wanted something easy to listen to. But Rush has been so much fun since he cleaned up, I just can't turn him off:)
27 posted on 12/17/2003 5:03:21 PM PST by BobS
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To: quidnunc
The founding fathers would be appalled at the level of foreign interaction we engage in today. A return to isolationism would be in our best interest. A good start would be the elimination of all foreign aid to every country on Earth.

I could find a bunch of George Washington quotes about this issue.
28 posted on 12/17/2003 5:32:09 PM PST by ryanjb2
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To: goldstategop
It was Dennis Prager himself who had two articles highlighting exactly that: the differences between the conservatives and the left.
TOWNHALL.COM
October 21, 2003
The second American civil war: What it's about: Part II

 

TOWNHALL.COM
October 14, 2003
The second American civil war: what it's about

29 posted on 12/17/2003 5:50:08 PM PST by Tolik
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To: quidnunc
bump
30 posted on 12/17/2003 5:50:16 PM PST by perfect stranger (No tag line today. Tag line yesterday, tag line tomorrow, but no tag line today.)
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To: KantianBurke
As you've noticed, to defend expansion of government by positing ad hominem is a neocon's mindset. But then, neocons don't care about anything but power and 'what's right'--logic doesn't come into their thinking. They are the conservative movement's just desserts for allowing state schools, people who understand power but not why or when it should be used, only that it should be.

It's all 'isolationism' and 'paleocon' from the neos when it comes to Iraq, but I don't hear a single one of them crying for us to invade Tibet or China or Congo or Zimbabwe. There are certainly evils there to deal with. The fact is that there is no national foreign policy more important than the PROTECTION of the United States. That's why WMD was the party line, and why people bought into Iraq. Certainly, I'm glad Saddam is gone, and I don't care that they haven't found WMDs, because I believe Bush would not have gone in without really believing WMDs were there. But there are far too many stupid neocons who want to say 'preventing evil' is now our national foreign policy--and it isn't. It better not be. I don't know about you, but I don't want the U.S. military cleaning out Algeria or Cambodia. I don't care about any other country unless they're threats to our country's security, and there are a lot more people like me than there are neocons, no matter how many stupid polls the neocons push.

Thank you for being an occasional voice of reason. I'm glad you're still here. Haven't seen much of you recently.
31 posted on 12/17/2003 6:25:38 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (When laws are regularly flouted, respect of the law and law enforcement diminishes correspondingly.)
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To: CasearianDaoist
Good point. Kuwait openly supported us. Bahrain provided important bases. Qatar provided us with rear support. At least three Arab countries are worth a damn.
32 posted on 12/17/2003 7:16:59 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: BobS
I haven't been able to listen to Rush every day since he came back, but he sure is sharper than before, and funnier.

(Like Ann Coulter said, he was better than any of them even when half his brain WAS tied behind his back! She said when he came out of rehab he'd really destroy them.)
33 posted on 12/17/2003 7:48:15 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: quidnunc
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

GREAT POST.

THANKS MUCH.

I filed it in several categories.
34 posted on 12/17/2003 7:53:56 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: bondserv
Thanks for the ping!
35 posted on 12/17/2003 8:53:15 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Bump.
36 posted on 12/17/2003 9:31:17 PM PST by cgk (Kraut, 1989: We must brace ourselves for disquisitions on peer pressure, adolescent anomie & rage.)
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To: quidnunc
"9. The Marxist belief that forces, not individuals, shape history is wrong. George W. Bush is living proof. "

One could contend that George W. Bush's election is a result of millions of people believing in good vs evil. Perhaps George W. Bush does not get elected if Bill Clinton wasn't the prior president.
37 posted on 12/17/2003 10:01:51 PM PST by Tymesup
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To: Vigilanteman
They took a lot of heat for it. All of these country are right next to either Iran or Iraq. They know the score. About the Kuwaities: They are capable of gratitude and loyalty. It amazes me that Japan an Kuwait are more honorable allies that France or Germany.
38 posted on 12/18/2003 7:05:41 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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