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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The version I heard was that the sub was doing "angles and dangles" and smacked its stern against the bottom.

Ouch.

Running aground is a Career-Limiting Move (CLM).
2 posted on 12/16/2003 4:43:31 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Poohbah
briefly touched bottom......

I think that is putting it nicely into a major understatement.

3 posted on 12/16/2003 4:49:54 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Poohbah
For us USAF, Navy challenged types - what is "angles and dangles" - ?

LVM

4 posted on 12/16/2003 4:51:19 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Thunder was his engine and White Lightning was his load....)
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To: Poohbah
Sounds like "limiting" is an understatement. More like "career-ending."

}:-)4
9 posted on 12/16/2003 4:54:52 PM PST by Moose4 ("The road goes on forever, and the party never ends." --Robert Earl Keen)
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To: Poohbah
Original Post:

Norfolk Naval Shipyard and Naval Sea Systems Command engineers will examine the submarine to decide a repair plan, said Lt. Cmdr. Bob Mehal, spokesman for Commander, Submarine Force Atlantic. In the mishap, Hartford briefly touched bottom as it cruised on the surface damaging its rudder and scrapping its hull.

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The version I heard was that the sub was doing "angles and dangles" and smacked its stern against the bottom.

Something isn't correct here - these statements conflict.

If the boat was "on the surface" it would not be doing "angles and dangles". That is not a surface manuver. If the boat was on the surface and ran aground, then clearly the OOD, CO, NAV, Quartermaster etc. screwed up a plot and weren't watching where they were or the depth.

On our boat, when the word was passed "prepare for angles & dangles" it meant that the boat was fully submerged, usually has some speed on and was going to me making turns and depth changes that could cause one to loose their footing or fall out of their "rack".

Think of a fighter plane taking evasive action if something was on it's tail.

If they were out to sea doing "angles and dangles", clearly the water depth was not sufficient to support their activity. They're damn lucky they didn't auger in bow first!

YMMV

22 posted on 12/16/2003 5:34:29 PM PST by Jambe
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To: Poohbah
Running aground is a Career-Limiting Move (CLM).I don't know about that. I ran 2 of my ships aground many times-but then again, they were LSTs.
25 posted on 12/16/2003 8:51:51 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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