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Gays and generals / Top brass torpedo 'don't ask, don't tell'
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | Tuesday, December 16, 2003 | editorial

Posted on 12/16/2003 9:31:19 AM PST by Willie Green

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:35:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

It should come as a shock to no one that three retired military officers, two generals and one admiral, revealed last week that they are gay. What should be surprising is that, despite these and other stellar records, the Pentagon adheres to a policy that prevents known homosexuals from staying in the service.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: dontaskdonttell; homosexualagenda; militaryreadiness; prisoners; ucmj
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To: King Black Robe
Wackeykat is sure as hell, not a conservative. You can see him on many a thread spreading Demorat talking points.
181 posted on 12/17/2003 11:01:20 AM PST by ohioman
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To: richtig_faust
PERVERSION...... get it???

No, I don't. What they do on their own time in private is none of your damn business.

182 posted on 12/17/2003 11:04:59 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: richtig_faust
It is sad to see the full force of the PINK BRIGADE here on FR. I would expect to see this over at DU, but it is becoming more common here. What these freaks do not understand is that this has nothing to do with being afraid of homos (i.e., their use of the PC word "homophobe"), but has everything to do with a dislike for abhorrent behavior (e.g., such as an unrepentant drug addict, drunk, or pervert.).
183 posted on 12/17/2003 11:08:30 AM PST by ohioman
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To: antiRepublicrat
They should be held to the same level of discretion as heterosexuals without fear of being kicked out if they get caught.

Nah! Since they are engaging in perversion, any evidence of activity should merit their discharge.

184 posted on 12/17/2003 11:09:08 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: ohioman
It is sad to see the full force of the PINK BRIGADE here on FR. I would expect to see this over at DU...

Oh, there's always one or two of the pro-homo cheerleaders running about. They usually lose interest and go away once they realize that they can't change men's minds about what God has called "abomination!"

185 posted on 12/17/2003 11:10:55 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: ohioman
You must be one of these closet homos.

Closet homos are often those who crusade against homosexuality in the first place. I believe there was research done in this area.

Funny, I think you are a liar, because I know of several who are currently in the Service, and they have never known of homos/dykes in their units.

Many people are not very perceptive, plus the homosexuals in the unit probably do not trust them with this information if they are like most people here. They knew I didn't care, so they didn't hide it from me. They didn't come right out proclaim "Behold, I am gay," but they didn't hide it either, like feeling free to say "boyfriend" and such. Except the one truck driver where it was just obvious to everyone.

BTW, usually good people to party with at clubs, and I later found that they tend to associate with the most gorgeous straight women.

186 posted on 12/17/2003 11:14:36 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
So you hung out with homos in the service, and yet you say you are not one. Yeah right. Here's a quarter, get back in the closet.
187 posted on 12/17/2003 11:19:43 AM PST by ohioman
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To: CWOJackson
Sexual perversion is not like race in any manner whatsoever.

But the prejudice is the same. You could hear someone is gay and then shun them forever without knowing anything else about them. That's prejudice. You don't know if he's a flaming liberal promiscuous gay activist or a very conservative, understated, stable person with less of a sex life than the average heterosexual. I've known both, and after I get to know a person I know I hate the former.

188 posted on 12/17/2003 11:20:36 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: ohioman
So you hung out with homos in the service, and yet you say you are not one. Yeah right.

I'm hanging out with religious people here, and yet I'm not one. Oh no, I may be a closet Christian! <<<shivers>>>

Anyway, I mostly hung out with straight people, but at times I'd get invited to some great clubs by the gays. Got three beautiful girlfriends out of that.

189 posted on 12/17/2003 11:25:34 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Race is not preference, sexual perversion is.
190 posted on 12/17/2003 11:26:16 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: antiRepublicrat
Closet homos are often those who crusade against homosexuality in the first place. I believe there was research done in this area.

Yes, it was a lame attempt by the homosexuals to silence their opposition by accusing them of being homosexuals. The smear didn't work, thanks to the shoddy science that they attempted to use. Their pathetic attempt proved there was no connection.

Although that doesn't stop the fudge-packing battalion from attempting to revive the lie on occasion.

But thanks for admitting that there is something wrong with being a homosexual (or you couldn't have used it as a smear, could you? LOL!).

191 posted on 12/17/2003 11:33:05 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
But the prejudice is the same.

No, it isn't even close. Homosexuality is all about perverted behavior, which all decent people oppose, while race is as morally neutral as you can get.

192 posted on 12/17/2003 11:35:13 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: ohioman
You must be one of these closet homos.

It wasn't the teetotalers that campaigned for the repeal of Prohibition, was it? LOL!

193 posted on 12/17/2003 11:36:57 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: antiRepublicrat; CWOJackson
You could hear someone is gay and then shun them forever without knowing anything else about them.

Wrong as always.

I don't believe everything I hear...but the poofters insist on their "Gay Pride" (the ultimate oxymoron) crap being everywhere so I'm put into a position of having to react.

I would also shun an adulterer, an embezzler, or a drug user. It's all about morals and have high standards.

194 posted on 12/17/2003 11:40:43 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: FormerLib
Homosexuality is all about perverted behavior, which all decent people oppose,

That's how you believe now. I oppose religious fundamentalism as sick and destructive, but I don't let that one aspect blacklist the whole person before I know enough to make a judgement.

while race is as morally neutral as you can get.

While that's not how they believed then. Blacks were inferior, and though not to even have a soul by many.

195 posted on 12/17/2003 11:42:25 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: FormerLib
I don't believe everything I hear...but the poofters insist on their "Gay Pride" (the ultimate oxymoron) crap being everywhere so I'm put into a position of having to react.

I don't like the whole "Gay Pride" thing either and stay away from those types -- too annoying.

I would also shun an

You won't associate with these people? I think they're generally good people.
196 posted on 12/17/2003 11:57:15 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Do you also sell ski area properties in Florida? Did you and your buddies try the old four at one bar stool trick?
197 posted on 12/17/2003 11:59:57 AM PST by ohioman
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To: FormerLib
Yes, it was a lame attempt by the homosexuals to

I know it was, that's why I used it as a counter the the common idiotic labelling of anyone who doesn't campaign against homosexuals as a homosexual himself.

But thanks for admitting that there is something wrong with being a homosexual

I think it's unnatural, but then half the things humans do are unnatural. Just not my cup of tea: keep it out of my face and out of my house and we'll have no problems. The gays I knew understood my limits, but one forgetting them got some painful bruises once.

198 posted on 12/17/2003 12:06:12 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: ohioman
your buddies try the old four at one bar stool trick?

I've never heard of that, possibly because I've never had anything to do with gay sex. Why don't you inform me of your personal intimate knowledge of gay sex practices?

199 posted on 12/17/2003 12:10:14 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
I repeat, here's a quarter, get the F### back in the closet.
200 posted on 12/17/2003 12:35:51 PM PST by ohioman
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