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Baby Raped: Will Justice Be Served?
The Seattle Times ^ | 12-15-03 | Nicole Brodeur

Posted on 12/16/2003 7:56:39 AM PST by sherim

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To: keri
That's loved, past tense. She thinks, in her own words, that he is "disgusting and sick". She thought he was her soul mate. Thought he was a good father, even.

BTW, in another googled up article, it is revealed that he got involved with her AFTER she was pregnant.
He chose a pregnant woman to date, and to find "true love" with. To her, it was a miracle. To him, it might have been a plan.

I don't wonder that he went trolling for a weak and vulnerable person to con with faux "affection", in order to gain access permanently to a child to gratify his pedophilia.

At least she had the strength to get over her initial shock and denial and do something...there are thousands of mothers who just stick their heads in the sand, permanently.

I wonder what, at age 23, her disability is. (She gets social security disability payments.)

I'm for certain glad that I never had to walk in her shoes.
The man who made her dreams of love and security come true,
who has pretended to be a good and committed partner and father....the cognitive dissonance would be devastating to the strongest person, and I'm sure he picked her out precisely because she wasn't strong..



61 posted on 12/16/2003 10:50:02 AM PST by SarahW
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To: CajunConservative
The founding fathers really missed the boat by not allowing "cruel and unusual punishment."
62 posted on 12/16/2003 10:59:42 AM PST by Homer1
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To: SarahW
Thanks for the info. Even if your mini-analysis is correct, none of it excuses her behavior toward her daughter. It does rather reinforce the idea that she needs help.

We disagree. I'm not going to electronically psychoanalyze this person or her "relationship" with this fat loser.

I'll leave it at that.

63 posted on 12/16/2003 11:02:39 AM PST by keri
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To: sherim
Anything short of hanging him by his testicles on a meathook until he bleeds to death will not be justice!
64 posted on 12/16/2003 11:06:07 AM PST by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: CajunConservative
Even with a plea bargain, six months would be a LONG time to survive the prison justice system for baby rapers.

That's the truth. I would just bet that the guards would see to it that this guy gets put in with the general population, too. There are guys in there with "nothing left to lose" that will see to it that this guy gets his.

65 posted on 12/16/2003 11:20:31 AM PST by scan58
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To: scan58
Although, with his daddy being the head of the department of corrections this particular perp would be coddled. I think that is what the OP's article is about.
66 posted on 12/16/2003 11:38:10 AM PST by CajunConservative
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To: Homer1
I don't think the founding fathers were considering the vile evil morally bankrupt perps we have now. These kind of criminals would have never lived to see the inside of a courtroom back then either.
67 posted on 12/16/2003 11:42:35 AM PST by CajunConservative
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To: keri
She didn't deal with it fast enough, but she did end up doing the right thing. She's right to fight for a long prison sentence for fatty... he's going to re-offend if he isn't put away.
68 posted on 12/16/2003 11:54:29 AM PST by SarahW
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To: keri
I'm not sure if its the kind of help you want her to get, but she is getting counseling, according to another
A king County Journal article.

From the same article:

" Crowder is in counseling and trying to work through her grief over what happened.

Although Lehman isn't the biological father of her daughter, Abigail, he was there for most of the pregnancy, was the first person to hold her, helped pick out her name and was a father to her in every sense of the word, Crowder said.

``I had a family with him,'' she said.

Because he helped pay the bills when the couple lived together on Auburn's Lee Hill, Crowder has had to move back in with her mother. She believes her daughter has some sense of what happened and she worries she will remember things she shouldn't.

Most of all, she wants Lehman to pay for what he did to Abigail and for betraying her trust.

``I don't want another child to go through that and I don't want another parent to have to go through what I had to go through,'' she said."

She's right in the sense that another parent and another child will go through hell if he isn't put away. He should be put away permanently, if you ask me.



69 posted on 12/16/2003 12:05:23 PM PST by SarahW
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To: CajunConservative
agreed.....Thanks to folks like Joe Lehman, Sr. (the perp's dad)

see: http://www.adutytoprotect.org/related/strong_beliefs.asp

Very interesting background on the perp's dad. On his watch, several rapist/murderers have been let out unsupervised to kill and rape again - Joe doesn't want
to be accountable for that.

Incidentally, there is a short paragraph about joe Jr being "developmentally disabled", and what is referred to as a single brush with the law.... with Joe Sr denying this has had any impact on his decision to coddle inmates.
70 posted on 12/16/2003 12:42:31 PM PST by SarahW
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To: John Will
Wow that's strong... GOOD
71 posted on 12/16/2003 12:44:12 PM PST by cyborg
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To: sherim
The reporterette's outrage is a little hard to swallow. Nicole Brodeur worked at out local lib rag, the Raleigh News and Observer, until a few years ago.

In '98, she was a total kneepadder for Clinton. I guess we've learned what it takes to get her attention.
72 posted on 12/16/2003 12:52:10 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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The reporterette's outrage is a little hard to swallow. Nicole Brodeur worked at out local lib rag, the Raleigh News and Observer, until a few years ago.

In '98, she was a total kneepadder for Clinton. I guess we've learned what it takes to get her attention.

Only the most depraved person wouldn't be outraged that a baby raper is getting slap on the wrist because his daddy is the head of the department of corrections. The victim was 2 months old. So she's wrong every other time, at least this time she has it right.

73 posted on 12/16/2003 12:56:38 PM PST by CajunConservative
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To: SarahW
I would not be surprised if the perp was developmentally disabled, probably explains why the mother took three weeks to report and is on disability at 23. When I was doing case management for the mentally ill there were several pedo's receiving services throught the agency I worked for and most were borderline to mild mentally retarded. They lacked the ability to stop themselves from repeating their crimes and IMHO they should have never been set free to wreak havoc on other innocent kids. If the opportunity presented itself, they would perp in a heartbeat.

The father is culpable in this crime and should be removed from his position, especially after reading that link.

74 posted on 12/16/2003 1:06:05 PM PST by CajunConservative
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To: sherim
I sure will. Hanging for both of these animals is too good.
75 posted on 12/16/2003 1:28:32 PM PST by ishabibble
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To: CajunConservative
Hmm...missed that part. That's what I get for just skimming the article.
You're probably right there. But, he ought to be turned loose among several guys in there for burglary or armed robbery. I've heard that the A/R convicts are the "elite" in the pen.
They love to smash guys like this to justify and rationalize their own crimes.
76 posted on 12/16/2003 2:52:09 PM PST by scan58
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To: CajunConservative
Remember what Jesus said about people who harm children: It would be better if a stone were tied around their necks and they were tossed into water to drown. (Words to that effect.)
77 posted on 12/16/2003 6:21:54 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: John Will
May i suggest emersion in 18M Hydroiodic acid or 18M Cesium Hydroxide?.

You may. I suggest immersion in a tank full of hungry fire ants.

I have rarely read about anything so sickening, so evil as what this monster did.

78 posted on 12/16/2003 6:43:49 PM PST by LibKill (You are not sheeple. Refuse to be clipped.)
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To: Homer1
They said cruel AND unusual punishment.

I say we go with cruel.
79 posted on 12/16/2003 8:55:59 PM PST by TheCookMan (Communism thrives when good people do nothing.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
"We had a case like this come into our ER. A man had raped (intercourse) his girlfriend's 8 month old daughter. The baby had to have surgery right away."

You wouldn't be referring to a case in Rockport, Indiana, would you?
80 posted on 12/16/2003 9:30:48 PM PST by SendShaqtoIraq
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