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To: tx4guns; Beelzebubba; ConservativeLawyer; Joe Brower; wardaddy
I don't know about TX, but in FL the law is different. There was a famous workplace shooting case in Miami 15 years ago. A nut rode up to an engine repair shop on a bike with a shotgun slung on his back. He killed 4 or 5 folks, slung his shotgun, got on his bike and rode away.

Some guys from another business across the street heard the shooting and saw the guy leave. They jumped in a car, got next to the man with the shotgun slung on his back, and shot him to death from their car.

This led to a lot of education on this point of the law for us. The DA said that since the guy had just used the weapon to inflict bodily harm, and still had it, he presented an immediate danger to the public even though his weapon was slung and he was riding away on a bike.

Who knows who his next victim might be? Nobody is obligated to find out. He still had the weapon, and the 2 civilians made a "good shoot" and got kudos all around, from the cops to the mayor. (They were worried at first and came up with a cock and bull "accidental discharge/warning shot" story first to cover themselves. No need. They were not even booked.)

I think the situation in Mass is the same. The perp had just used the gun, and still had it. He's fair game, because the presumption is that he could use it again at any moment to kill the next person he saw.

47 posted on 12/16/2003 4:08:42 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
I think if one is armed and in the presence of someone killing another person that it's reasonable to assume that one may use deadly force to stop it unless that person is a cop.

That Miami story reminds me of the crackhead bank robber who rode his bicycle to the bank armed with a fake gun and with a manhole lid strapped to his chest as makeshift body armour. He was caught fleeing the bank on the bike making a rather slow getaway burdened with the 90lb manhole lid and the red dye spewing bag of money.
48 posted on 12/16/2003 4:18:10 PM PST by wardaddy ("either the arabs are at your throat, or at your feet"...at our feet today obviously..)
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To: Travis McGee
"They jumped in a car, got next to the man with the shotgun slung on his back, and shot him to death from their car."

LOL Travis, this happened in my town...I remember it well. They not only shot the bozo....they ran him over too! The tenth anniversary of that incident just passed and they tried to re-interview the heroes, but one had already passed away and the other said he knew he'd done the right thing, but that he was "haunted." I guess good people handle things in different ways. I think I not only would have run him over, I'd have locked the wheels on him.

52 posted on 12/16/2003 5:06:13 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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