Massachusetts Gun Laws Turn Store Full of Customers into Cowering Targets*

Worcester (MA) Telegram and Gazette (owned by New York Times Publishing) ^ | 12/16/03 | Williamson

[Dan Evans]

But hey--try it sometime. Let me know how your case turns out.

I'll tell you right now -- if I'm on the jury, he walks.

[zip]

Fantastic graphics. thx

[zip]

I'll tell you right now -- if I'm on the jury, he walks.

Exactly my thoughts.

[Travis McGee]

Geez, I hope you draw combat pay!

[Travis McGee]

Did you read #s 47, 52,53 and 54? Read them and get back to me. I seriously doubt that TX, where you may shoot folks on your property after dark, has stricter laws on the books concerning this type of case than FL.

[Maelstrom]

The NRA has brought a great deal of gun control to the states.

[Shooter 2.5]

Oh, Bullsh!t.

Every time I hear someone like you say something like that, I know you're not involved with the fight against gun control.

The NRA is not the one who make the laws. They are only a lobbying group. If 95% of the gun owners would get off their lazy, fat a$$es and join a gun group, we wouldn't have gun control.

If you want to blame anyone, blame the dem party.

[Maelstrom]

No Bullsh!t

The NRA and the NRA alone, was responsible for drafting a registration scheme involving ALL guns, including long-guns in Pennsylvania while I was there.

This registration scheme has since been used by at *least* the Philadelphia police to create a list of all gunowners.

The NRA and the NRA alone, accused people calling up questioning about this law as CRIMINALS SEEKING TO AVOID DETECTION.

That is the NRA's legacy, and, apparently, their purpose.

The NRA has not managed to repeal any significan gun laws. If I wanted the services of the NRA with respect to gun laws, I couldn't do much worse by joining HCI...that group, at least, had the good grace to become defunct.

My money goes to the GOA.

[Shooter 2.5]

More Bullsh!t.

Go ahead and give a link to that one and make sure it doesn't come from a gun group that hasn't been trying to destroy the NRA for the last umpteen years.

Go ahead. Let me know what that other gun group has ever done without the NRA's help.

Take your time.

[Maelstrom]

Take your crap and shove it.

This I did personally, by myself, as an individual, on my own dime.

I was there.
I petitioned PA to drop the registration.
I requested a reason from the NRA.

ME.

PERSONALLY.

MYSELF.

[Maelstrom]

AND I WAS A MEMBER AT THE TIME

[from occupied ga]

TO my knowledge the NRA sponsored "Project Exile" in VA. Here in GA they tried to get a trigger lock law passed.

[Shooter 2.5]

Link please.

[Shooter 2.5]

No, the NRA did not try to have a trigger lock law. They stayed out of that fight and were neutral because the law had a lot of other child proof provisions to it. That's why the GOA was so upset. The GOA had a hard time trying to stop the law by themselves.

Funny, all this time the GOA claimed to be so good and when it came time to do something by themselves all they did was bitch about it. And yeah, they did succeed.

[from occupied ga]

No, the NRA did not try to have a trigger lock law.

Au Contraire, The NRA specifcally said that they would endorse the trigger lock if the anti-gunners in the legislature would allow their irrelevant Eddie Eagle program to be taught in the schools if the school requested it. If the school requested it it already could be taught. Don't pi$$ on my head and tell me it's raining. I was there. You weren't.

[Shooter 2.5]

I read the information of the neutrality off that Grassroots group from Georgia. They were all upset the NRA wouldn't get involved.

Can you tell me the name of that group?

[Maelstrom]

I don't understand why you want a link.

I was there and personally involved. You were probably having your diapers changed, you at the very least had your head up your dupa.

http://www.gunownersalliance.com/PA-act17.htm

http://www.acslpa.org/fist/fistrpt1.htm

http://www.acslpa.org/lbfc/lbfc.htm

http://www.user.fast.net/~behanna/paibcatf.html
http://www.user.fast.net/~behanna/kfc.html

http://www.gunowners.org/news/nws9807.htm

I do apologize there are no links to my personal phone call expressing concern about the NRA's support of gun control. However, you can mark the end of my involvement with the NRA from that date.

[from occupied ga]

www.arms.org - This was the second go round described here. I was referring to an earlier attempt by the anti-gunners to work with the NRA to get trigger lock law passed - about 4 years ago

[magslinger]

Pointing to his head: "The weapons are all in here. The rest is just hardware".

Good quote, reminds me of Heinlein's "There are no dangerous weapons, only dangerous people." but your comment is more to the point.

[Siamese Princess]

You're absolutely right.