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USO Canteen FReeper Style ~ Ancient Greek Military:Mercenaries ~ December 16, 2003
Warfare in Hellas ^ | december 16, 2003 | LaDivaLoca

Posted on 12/16/2003 1:19:32 AM PST by LaDivaLoca

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A good morning to my fellow Canteeners,
our Military, Veterans, Allies and your families




Have a wonderful day!


See you all later.


2 posted on 12/16/2003 1:20:53 AM PST by LaDivaLoca (There can be no triumph w/o loss, no victory w/o suffering, no freedom w/o sacrifice. THANK U TROOPS)
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I believe that today is also the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.
3 posted on 12/16/2003 1:26:30 AM PST by scouse
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Interesting. Here is an entry from Wikipedia:
["Devoted Brothers in Arms" = "The Sacred Band"]

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Gorgidas was a Theban military leader of the Sacred Band of Thebes, an elite corps of paired Theban gay lovers.

The reasoning behind the Sacred Band was that lovers would fight more fiercely and more cohesively at each other's sides than would strangers with no homoerotic bonds. The Sacred Band was 150 pairs of lovers, a total of three hundred men led them to their gallant end on the blood-drenched field of Chaeronea, in 338 B.C.E.

Plutarch chronicled their exploits. Gorgidas, around 378 BC first established the Sacred Band by shoosing couple from his army. Plato had first proposed such a troop in the Symposium: "If there were only some way of contriving that a state or an army should be made up of lovers and their loves, they would be the very best governors of their own city, abstaining from all dishonour, and emulating one another in honour; and when fighting at each other's side, although a mere handful, they would overcome the world. For what lover would not choose rather to be seen by all mankind than by his beloved, either when abandoning his post or throwing away his arms? He would be ready to die a thousand deaths rather than endure this. Or who would desert his beloved or fail him in the hour of danger? The veriest coward would become an inspired hero, equal to the bravest, at such a time; Love would inspire him.?

Plutarch in his Life of Pelopidas said this was Gorgidas' inspiration: ?Since the lovers, ashamed to be base in sight of their beloved, and the beloved before their lovers, willingly rush into danger for the relief of one another.?

The Sacred Band was at first dispersed throughout the front ranks of the regular infantry, with the idea that they would inspire valour, but they were latter arrayed as a unit in order to make their gallantry more conspicuous.

After Thebes was conquered in the Peloponnesian War in 404, bands of guerilla troops fought with the Spartan troops, becoming fierce warriors. Pelopidas recaptured a Theban fortress in 379 and he assumed the command of the Sacred Band in which he fought alongside his former lover General Epaminondas.

The Sacred Band under Pelopidas fought the Spartans in Tegyra, vanquishing an army that was at least three times their number.

The Sacred Band was also responsible for the victory of Leuctra in 371 BC, called by Pausanias the most decisive battle ever fought by Greeks against Greeks. Leuctra established Theban independence from Spartan rule, and laid the groundwork for the expansion of Theban power.

The Sacred Band was eventually destroyed by Philip II of Macedon, who had been held as a hostage in Thebes, and had learned his military tactics there. The remainder of the Theban army fled when faced with the overwhelming forces of Philip and his son Alexander, but the Sacred Band, surrounded, held their ground and died where they stood. Only forty six were taken alive.

Plutarch records the words of Philip, touring the field after the battle in his Life of Pelopidas:?lying all where they had faced the long spears of his phalanx, with their armour, and mingled one with another, he was amazed, and on learning that this was the band of lovers and beloved, shed tears and said, ?Perish miserably they who think that these men did or suffered aught disgraceful!? Philip buried their bodies with honor, setting up the Lion of Chaeronea over them. The grave was excavated in 1881, confirming Plutarch's account.



4 posted on 12/16/2003 1:42:39 AM PST by Looking for Diogenes
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To: LaDivaLoca
Good morning Diva.


5 posted on 12/16/2003 2:27:40 AM PST by Aeronaut (In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
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To: scouse
the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party.
 
Interesting, I can remember walking down Congress Street in Boston, right by the HMS Beaver (Boston Tea Parrty ship replica). On 16 December 1973. There was no indication that the day was different from any other. I saw no evidence if a ceremony of any kind. Granted, the "Museum" was rather new at the time. Still, I did expect to see some official notice. Perhaps, I just missed it. Thanks for the reminder.
 
 Incidently, I worked on the 2nd floor in that buiding in this image. There used to be an Electric Company there on the 1st floor. The rest of the building was warehouse space for a number of different companies, but now (I believe) it is a site full of high priced condos.  The Victoria Station restaurant was a nice restaurant in the forefront of the building. It was comprised of old freight trains and stuff.  Out of sight in the image just  to the immediate right is the Boston Children's Museum. I do not get to be in that area very often, anymore, but most of those establishments are (I believe) moved along.
 
 

6 posted on 12/16/2003 3:15:42 AM PST by Radix (They say that in the Army, the coffees mighty fine, Looks like muddy water, tastes like turpentine)
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7 posted on 12/16/2003 4:13:21 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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Kudos to the brave men and women of the 4Th ID for nabbing Saddam! God bless them, and God bless all our troops!
8 posted on 12/16/2003 4:16:38 AM PST by JohnHuang2 (<-----As Neanderthal as they come)
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9 posted on 12/16/2003 4:16:56 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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"Kudos to the brave men and women of the 4Th ID for nabbing Saddam! God bless them, and God bless all our troops!"

AMEN
10 posted on 12/16/2003 4:18:27 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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11 posted on 12/16/2003 4:23:16 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (mmmm CHRISTMAS GOODIES and COFFEE)
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Linda, the message is hidden in the cup everyday.. : )

Let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together.


I love to worship with others, 
To read the Bible and pray. 
To sing the songs about Jesus, 
And learn to walk in His way.

To keep growing in Christ, keep going to church.

12 posted on 12/16/2003 4:26:50 AM PST by The Mayor (If God could Vote, he would vote with the Right wing conspiracy)
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To: LaDivaLoca

Today's classic warship, USS Idaho (BB-42)

New Mexico class battleship
displacement. 32,000 t.
length. 624'
beam. 97'5"
draft. 30'
speed. 21 k.
complement. 1,081
armament. 12 14", 14 5", 4 3", 2 21" tt.

The USS Idaho (BB-42) was launched by New York shipbuilding Corp., Camden, N.J., 30 June 1917; sponsored by Miss H. A. Limons, granddaughter of the Governor of Idaho; and commissioned 24 March 1919, Captain C. T. Vogelgesang In command.

Idaho sailed 13 April for shakedown training out of Guantanamo Bay, and after returning to New York received President Pessoa of Brazil for the voyage to Rio de Janeiro. Departing 6 July with her escort, the battleship arrived Rio 17 July 1919 . From there she set course for the Panama Canal, arriving Monterey, Calif., in September to join the Pacific Fleet. She joined other dreadnoughts in training exercises and reviews, including a Fleet Review by President Wilson 13 September 1919. In 1920 the battleship carried Secretary Daniels and the Secretary of the Interior on an inspection tour of Alaska.

Upon her return from Alaska 22 July 1920 Idaho took part in fleet maneuvers off the California coast and as far south as Chile. She continued this important training until 1925, taking part in numerous ceremonies on the West Coast during the interim. Idaho took part in the fleet review held by President Harding in Seattle shortly before his death In 1923. The battleship sailed 15 April 1925 for Hawaii, participated in war games until 1 July, and then got underway for Samoa, Australia, and New Zealand. On the return voyage Idaho embarked gallant Comdr. John Rodgers and his seaplane crew after their attempt to fly to Hawaii, arriving San Francisco 24 September 1925.

For the next 6 years Idaho operated out of San Pedro on training and readiness operations off California and in the Caribbean. She sailed from San Pedro 7 September 1931 for the East Coast, entering Norfolk Nary Yard 30 September for modernization. The veteran battleship received better armor, "blister" antisubmarine protection, and better machinery during this extensive overhaul. Gone were the "cage" masts that were such a distinguishing feature of American battleships of her era, now replaced with a tower superstructure supporting up-to-date gunfire controls. After completion 9 October 1934 the ship conducted shakedown in the Caribbean before returning to her home port, San Pedro, 17 April 1935.

As war clouds gathered in the Pacific, the fleet increased the tempo of its training operations. Idaho carried out fleet tactics and gunnery exercises regularly until arriving with the battle fleet at Pearl Harbor 1 July 1940. The ship sailed for Hampton Roads 6 June 1941 to perform Atlantic neutrality patrol, a vital part of U.S. policy in the early days of the European fighting. She moved to Iceland In September to protect American advance bases and was on station at Hvalfjordur when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor 7 December 1941 and catapulted America into the war.

Idaho and sister ship Mississippi departed Iceland 2 days after Pearl Harbor to join the Pacific Fleet, and arrived San Francisco via Norfolk and the Panama Canal 31 January 1942. She conducted additional battle exercises in California waters and out of Pearl Harbor until October 1942, when she entered Puget Sound Navy Yard to be regunned. Upon completion of this work Idaho again took part in battle exercises, and sailed 7 April 1943 for operations in the bleak Aleutians. There she was flagship of the bombardment and patrol force around Attu, where she gave gunfire support to the Army landings 11 May 1943. During the months that followed she concentrated on Kiska, culminating in an assault 15 August. The Japanese were found to have evacuated island in late July, thus abandoning their last foothold in the Aleutians.

Idaho returned to San Francisco 7 September 1943 to prepare for the invasion of the Gilbert islands. Moving to Pearl Harbor, she got underway with the assault fleet 10 November and arrived off Makin Atoll 20 November. She supported the fighting ashore with accurate gunfire support and antiaircraft fire, remaining in the Gilbert until sailing for Pearl Harbor 5 December 1943.

Next on the Pacific timetable was the invasion of the Marshalls, and the veteran battleship arrived off Kwajalein early 31 January to soften up shore positions. Again she hurled tons of shells into Japanese positions until 5 February, when the outcome was one of certain victory. After replenishing at Majuro she bombarded other islands in the group, then moved to Kavieng, New Ireland, for a diversionary bombardment 20 March 1944.

Idaho returned to the New Hebrides 25 March, and after a short stay In Australia arrived Kwajalein with a group of escort carriers 8 June. From there the ships steamed to the Marianas, where Idaho began a preinvasion bombardment of Saipan 14 June. With this brilliantly executed landing assault underway 15 June, the battleship moved to Guam for bombardment assignments. As the American fleet decimated Japanese carrier air power in the Battle of the Philippine Sea 19 to 21 June, Idaho protected the precious transport area and reserve convoys. After returning briefly to Eniwetok 28 June to 9 July the ship began preinvasion bombardment of Guam 12 July, and continued the devastating shelling until the main assault eight days later. As ground troops battled for the island, Idaho stood offshore providing vital support until anchoring at Eniwetok 2 August 1944.

The ship continued to Espiritu Santo and entered a floating dry dock 15 August for repairs to her blisters. After landing rehearsals on Guadalcanal in early September, Idaho moved to Peleliu 12 September and began bombarding the island, needed as a staging base for the invasion of the Philippines. Despite the furious bombardment, Japanese entrenchments gave assault forces stiff opposition, and the battleship remained off Peleliu until 24 September providing the all-important fire support for advancing marines. She then sailed for Manus and eventually to Bremerton, Wash., where she arrived for needed repairs 22 October 1944. This was followed by battle practice off California.

Idaho's mighty guns were need for the next giant amphibious assault on the way to Japan. She sailed from San Diego 20 January 1945 to join a battleship group at Pearl Harbor. After rehearsals she steamed from the Marianas 14 February for the in vasion of Iwo Jima. As marines stormed ashore 19 February Idaho was again blasting enemy positions with her big guns. She remained off Iwo Jima until 7 March, when she underway for Ulithi and the last of the great Pacific assaults-Okinawa.

Idaho sailed 21 March 1945 as part of Rear Admiral Deyo's Gunfire and Covering Group and flagship of Bombardment Unit 4. She arrived offshore 25 March and began silencing enemy shore batteries and pounding installations. The landings began 1 April, and as the Japanese made a desperate attempt to drive the vast fleet away with suicide attacks, Idaho's gunners shot down numerous planes. In a massed attack 12 April the battleship shot down five kamikazes before suffering damage to her port blisters from a near-miss. After temporary repairs she sailed 20 April and arrived Guam five days later.

The veteran of so many of the landings of the Pacific quickly completed repairs and returned to Okinawa 22 May to resume fire support. Idaho remained until 20 June 1945, then sailed for battle maneuvers in Leyte Gulf until hostilities ceased 15 August 1945.

Idaho made her triumphal entry into Tokyo Bay with occupation troops 27 August, and witnessed the signing of the surrender on board Missouri 2 September. Four days later she began the long voyage to the East Coast of the United States, steaming via the Panama Canal to Norfolk 16 October 1945. She decommissioned 3 July 1946 and was placed in reserve until sold for scrap 24 November 1947 to Lipsett Inc., of New York City.

Idaho received seven battle stars for World War II service.

13 posted on 12/16/2003 4:29:57 AM PST by aomagrat (IYAOYAS)
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14 posted on 12/16/2003 4:32:30 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Season's Greetings Ladies)
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15 posted on 12/16/2003 4:35:20 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (THANK YOU TROOPS, PAST and PRESENT)
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16 posted on 12/16/2003 4:40:16 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (God Bless and Protect our military and our allies military.)
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Excerpt from the Remarks by President Bush in honor of Independence Day
United States Air Force Museum, Dayton, Ohio | July 4, 2003

"...Our nation is still at war. The enemies of America plot against us.
And many of our fellow citizens are still serving and sacrificing
and facing danger in distant places.
Many military families are separated. Our people in uniform do not have easy duty,
and much depends on their success. Without America's active involvement in the world,
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With Americans' active involvement in the world, tyrants learn to fear, and terrorists are on the run..."

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17 posted on 12/16/2003 4:48:50 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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And a very pleasant good morning to all of our military at home and abroad. Thanks for your continued service to our country.

Good morning to everyone also here at the Freeper Canteen. It's been a little bit windy here the last couple of days. Hanging on to what we can here in SW Ok.

18 posted on 12/16/2003 4:50:15 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: All
To every service man or woman reading this thread.
Thank You for your service to our country.
No matter where you are stationed,
No matter what your job description
Know that we are are proud of each and everyone of you.


To our military readers, we remain steadfast in keeping the Canteen doors open.
The Canteen is Free Republics longest running daily thread specifically designed
to provide entertainment and morale support for the military.

The doors have been open since Oct 7 2001,
the day of the start of the war in Afghanistan.

We are indebted to you for your sacrifices for our Freedom.









19 posted on 12/16/2003 4:52:09 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Season's Greetings)
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Good Morning E.G.C. !
20 posted on 12/16/2003 4:53:19 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Season's Greetings)
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