Pa. high court refuses to hear case to save Saha family's Chesco farm

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[Michael Barnes]

Gotta say, I hate eminent-domain. You can tell me about fair market value within eminent-domain cases all you like. But I have a hard time believing in any gov't that (eventually) forces you to move at their whim.

[Michael Barnes]

Got some ping lists you can help me out with?

[thesummerwind]

Agreed!

[Dane]

This is eminant domain at it's worst. I pinged a couple of people who may have ping lists.

[Michael Barnes]

Coatesville wants to seize the Sahas' property as part of plans for a $60 million recreation complex that would include a golf course, bowling alley and skating rinks.

I could care less what condition the land or it's structures are in, and don't know for that matter.

What I do know is that it could just as easily happen to you or me. Dollar signs in politicians eyes is the most dangerous thing in the world in my view.

This boils me...

[Michael Barnes]

Thanks Dane.

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Firearms are like grandma's fine china. You only use it on very special occasions. Eminent domain may best be served on such.

[Michael Barnes]

???
I hope it's just me being dense tonight.

Firearms are like grandma's fine china. You only use it on very special occasions.

Not sure where ya wanted to go with that, but would you accept a city manager or council telling grandma she had to sell her china and buy a new set becuase the manager or council thought it was in the best interest?

Or taking up arms for private property rights?

[rudy45]

ping

[Michael Barnes]

Firearms are like grandma's fine china. You only use it on very special occasions. Eminent domain may best be served on such.

Arrrghh..I chopped off your post...sorry.

[Michael Barnes]

thanks for the ping...

[agitator]

ping

[WackyKat]

Even worse, they're now seizing property just so they can immediately turn around and sell it to private developers.

It's just criminal.

[Michael Barnes]

txs....

[AD from SpringBay]

The latter. If people are unwilling to fight for their homes (that may have been in the family for years) - then there's not much left. And when legal recourse goes to the highest bidder (as it seems to do these days) -the options are limited. The problem, however, is that the "[fill in the blank] compound of separatists" or those in possession of "anti-government literature", or the "few facts are known at this time as to what caused the stand-off" can be too easily painted into an untenable corner with little in the way of opening the eyes of others.

I don't know the whole story here - but based on the above article I don't know what I would do if I were in the land-owners shoes.

[Michael Barnes]

Gotta say, my township is looking to eminant domain alot of our properties for a by pass..We'll fight it. Our case is different than the one cited though. And I tend to believe in what you say. Criminal.

A "new" road (as much as I hate to admit it) does somewhat serve the public around here.

A golf course, bowling alley and skating rinks has long lasting tax revenue implications; I doubt highly the manager or council has factored in the LONG TERM revenue the "family" could lose based on the city/county's decison. As well, I feel it does not truly "serve" the community. The things listed above are entertainment. When push comes to chove, ANY community can survive without them.

Now, maybe the family needs to "long term" lease the proeprty out?

[Alberta's Child]

I know exactly what I would do -- I'd cut a deal to sell the property, then spend every hour in the dead of the night dumping toxic waste all over the property once the check cleared.

[Michael Barnes]

The latter.

Didn't need to read much further friend. Like I said, sorry I'm dense tonight...

[Michael Barnes]

heh-hehe..I like you..

[ikka]

Yes, salt the land so it is useless for 100 years.