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Dean attacks military, President Bush - "Should have had Saddam six months earlier"

Posted on 12/15/2003 3:06:24 PM PST by jmcclain19

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To: Dog
http://www.christianmusictv.com/id95.htm
41 posted on 12/15/2003 3:32:27 PM PST by Shermy
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To: jmcclain19
Well Howie, you should have told us exactly where he was six months ago if you knew. Just like a lib, all they have to offer is problems with no solutions.
42 posted on 12/15/2003 3:35:53 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: Dog
I think Dean, like other demos, are falling on the swords of their "immediate threat" meme.
43 posted on 12/15/2003 3:35:58 PM PST by Shermy
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To: jmcclain19
OK class, time to do a little analysis: In a question-and-answer period following the speech, Dean also said, “I have never
found the evidence convincing that Iraq was ever a significant threat to
the United States.”


In other words, Dean would need to see a country as a threat to the United States
before he'd attack it.
So how does that fit with these following statements?

And he emphasized that he would support use of American military force in
some cases, noting that he did support the rollback of Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait
in 1991 and the effort to halt ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and Kosovo.


But what if Saddam had given us his word that he'd be selling Kuwait's oil at the same
price as before he invaded Kuwait and he'd keep the oil flowing.
At that point, I don't see how Dean could construe Saddam's move as threatening
the United States. It would just have been an argument between two sovereign states,
at least the way Dean would spin it.

Ethnic cleansing between a bunch of folks who've loved killing each other for
about a thousand years in Bosnia and Kosovo...what sort of substantive threat is that
to the USA, Dr. Dean?
That crap was going on before the USA...might be going on when our children's, children's,
children's bones are turned to dust.

He also said that in Iraq he would have supported U.S. intervention to halt Saddam’s
massacres of Shiites in 1991.


What? Massacre is just a numbers game. A bunch of Shiites with guns, RPGs and
other weapons took on Saddam. Gambled and lost, as sad as it was.
Why in the heck is that a threat to the USA, Dr. Dean?
45 posted on 12/15/2003 3:38:20 PM PST by VOA
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To: Rummyfan
Be afraid.
46 posted on 12/15/2003 3:38:22 PM PST by Howlin (Bush has stolen two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: NEPA
http://www.evote.com/weekend_section/09292002/FTNReview.asp

Mr. Schieffer: You are unabashedly seeking the Democratic presidential nomination… you have said at this point that the president has not yet made the case for war, and that nothing so far has justified a unilateral strike into Iraq. But Iraq now says over the weekend that it will not accept tougher rules for inspection. Doesn’t that make the case now for the administration?

Governor Dean: Not quite yet. There is no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat to the United States, and to our allies. The question is, is he an immediate threat? The President has not yet made the case for that. I think it very well may be, particularly with the news that we had over the weekend, that we are going to end up in Iraq. But I think it’s got to be gone about in a different way, it really is important to involve our allies, to bring other people into the coalition, to get a decent resolution out of the UN Security Council…

Ms. Borger: What exactly does the president have to prove to you?

Governor Dean: I don’t think he really has to prove anything, I think that most Americans, including, myself, will take the president’s word for it. But the president has never said that Saddam has the capability of striking the United States with atomic or biological weapons any time in the immediate future. My question is not that we may not have to go into Iraq, we may very well have to go into Iraq. What is the rush? Why can’t we take the time to get our allies on board? Why do we have to do everything in a unilateral way? It’s not good for the foreign policy of this country to be the big bully on the block and tell everybody we’re going to do what we want to do…

Mr. Schieffer: What in your mind would justify a strike on Iraq?

Governor Dean: First of all, a strike may be justified. What the president has got to say is that Saddam has atomic or biological weapons, and has the means to deliver them to ourselves and our allies. He has never said that to my knowledge, nor have any of his surrogates
47 posted on 12/15/2003 3:38:28 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Dog
Bush/Cheney campaign ads are going to be just too easy!
48 posted on 12/15/2003 3:38:35 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: truth_seeker
This guy may be an MD doctor, but he isn't smart enough, to be consistent.

Can you imagine having him as your doctor? "This is not the time to operate on the tumor. We should have gotten it six months ago. You'd be better off without it but it's no danger. Let me check with ten international witch-doctors and shamans and see what they say."

49 posted on 12/15/2003 3:39:06 PM PST by wizardoz ("Let's roll!" ........................................................ "We got him!")
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To: Flashman_at_the_charge
Is Howie flicking buggers now?
50 posted on 12/15/2003 3:39:58 PM PST by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: jmcclain19
Democratic presidential contender Howard Dean hailed the capture of Saddam Hussein
as “good news for the Iraqi people and for the world,”
but also claimed that his capture “could have taken place six months ago.”


I pray that some reporter or heckler will ask Dean why he didn't get his boots on
the ground in Iraq six months ago!
51 posted on 12/15/2003 3:41:10 PM PST by VOA
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To: wizardoz
Excellent recap

Prairie
52 posted on 12/15/2003 3:43:52 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Rejoice in the love God has shown by sending His Son to live among us and in our hearts.)
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To: prairiebreeze
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53 posted on 12/15/2003 3:45:00 PM PST by Nick Thimmesch
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To: jmcclain19
In a major foreign policy address Monday, Democratic presidential contender Howard Dean hailed the capture of Saddam Hussein as “good news for the Iraqi people and for the world,” but also claimed that his capture “could have taken place six months ago.”

Think about this statement. Dean is saying that Saddam could have been captured six months ago. Well, if that were the case, no one would have objected to the invasion of Iraq. So, maybe Dean isn't really opposed to war, he just wants faster more efficient wars?

My son served in the military. People he served with have positions of responsibility in Afghanistan and Iraq. I object very strongly to Dean's implication that somehow our fine soldiers didn't do everything possible to find Saddam as quickly as possible, that somehow they would have done better with help from other nations or with a different leader of our military.

The tone of what Dean says sounds bitter. He's alienated the other candidates, he's left with no issues, and he's incoherent.

54 posted on 12/15/2003 3:45:07 PM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: Fintan
ROFL!!

Prairie
55 posted on 12/15/2003 3:45:39 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Rejoice in the love God has shown by sending His Son to live among us and in our hearts.)
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To: rickmichaels
Clintons (both of them), is a lowlife, scumbag POS

I just saw a very brief clip of Beestie's foreign policy speech. She said the Clinton administration tried to get OBL by using missiles. I jumped up and started yelling at the TV that her traitorous "spouse" couldn't be bothered to attack OBL in a timely manner and the opportunity was LOST!!

I scared the dog. Husband just looked up and said "I wish you'd say what you really think." LOL

That dirty dishwater blond 'ho

Prairie

56 posted on 12/15/2003 3:49:38 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Rejoice in the love God has shown by sending His Son to live among us and in our hearts.)
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To: truth_seeker
This guy may be an MD doctor, but he isn't smart enough,

Truly not an indicator of intelligence. Believe me.

Prairie

57 posted on 12/15/2003 3:51:00 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Rejoice in the love God has shown by sending His Son to live among us and in our hearts.)
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To: Dog
All the Democratic losers have said this. Until election time of course.

Prairie
58 posted on 12/15/2003 3:53:06 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Rejoice in the love God has shown by sending His Son to live among us and in our hearts.)
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To: squidly
The really, really scary part is that there are people out there who seriously want this guy to be POTUS...
59 posted on 12/15/2003 3:56:12 PM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: Dog
Which of course is why they aren't to be trusted with national security AT ALL!! They have and are continuing to prove over and over they will prostitute themselves to any cause or position .....regardless of the consequence to the nation.

Prairie
60 posted on 12/15/2003 3:57:44 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Rejoice in the love God has shown by sending His Son to live among us and in our hearts.)
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