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The Supreme Court Allows Arrests of All in Drug Stops (PoliceState)
AP ^ | Dec 15,2003 | GINA HOLLAND

Posted on 12/15/2003 2:17:27 PM PST by ask

Court Allows Arrests of All in Drug Stops

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court issued a traffic warning Monday: Beware of whom you ride with. If drugs are found in a vehicle, all occupants can be arrested, the justices said in a unanimous decision.

It was a victory for Maryland and 20 other states that argued police frequently find drugs in traffic stops but no one in the vehicle claims them. The court gave officers the go-ahead to arrest everyone.

In a small space like a car, an officer could reasonably infer "a common enterprise" among a driver and passengers, the justices ruled.

The case stemmed from an incident in 1999, when police in the Baltimore suburbs pulled over a speeding car. A search revealed a roll of cash in the glove compartment and cocaine in an armrest in the back seat.

The driver and the two passengers denied having anything to do with the contraband, so all three men were arrested.

Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, writing for the court, said police had probable cause to suspect that the drugs belonged to any of the three, or all of them.

Lisa Kemler, a criminal defense attorney from Alexandria, Va., said the court seems to be saying: "know who your company is."

"How many times have you gotten a ride with a friend? Are you going to peer around in their glove compartment?" asked Kemler, who fears the ruling will lead to a police dragnet. "You could find probable cause to arrest everybody."

Michael Rushford, president of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation, a pro-law enforcement group, said police can't be expected to sort out ownership of drugs or guns in the middle of a traffic stop.

"You certainly wouldn't let three people with Uzis in their car leave because no one would admit the uzis were theirs," he said.

Maryland's highest court had thrown out the conviction of a passenger in the car, Joseph Jermaine Pringle, on grounds that his arrest violated the Constitution's Fourth Amendment ban on unreasonable searches or seizures. The Supreme Court reversed that decision.

"Pringle's attempt to characterize this case as a guilt-by-associaton case is unavailing," Rehnquist wrote in the brief decision.

Pringle told police later that the drugs were his and that he had planned to swap them for sex or money at a party. His 10-year prison sentence will be reinstated.

The American Civil Liberties Union and National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers filed a brief supporting Pringle. Their lawyer said the ruling will sweep innocent passengers into criminal cases.

"There's nothing in this opinion to prevent a police officer from arresting a graduate student who is offered a ride home late at night from a party that she has attended with some fellow students," said Tracey Maclin, a Boston University law professor.

The court's rationale could be used in other police search cases, involving homes, Maclin said.

The ruling dealt with the discovery of drugs and cash, but it could apply to other contraband as well.

Supporting Maryland in the case were the Bush administration, along with Alabama, Alaska, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, and Puerto Rico.

The case is Maryland v. Pringle, 02-809.

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To: danneskjold
It's not a Police State if we call it a Safe Society.

Believe and obey - they know what's best.
41 posted on 12/15/2003 2:40:11 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: yonif
Isn't this how its always been?</>

In Mass, yes: same as it ever has been, as far back as I was concerned with it....1986 on.

42 posted on 12/15/2003 2:40:17 PM PST by dasboot
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Yep, really.

More on the subject

43 posted on 12/15/2003 2:40:29 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Don't arrests usually require some sort of probable cause, or something like that? IMO, just taking everyone present and hauling them off to jail sounds like a major lawsuit just begging to happen.

Ergo, the Supreme Court case...

:)

44 posted on 12/15/2003 2:40:48 PM PST by danneskjold
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To: dasboot
ital </I>
45 posted on 12/15/2003 2:40:55 PM PST by dasboot
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Don't arrests usually require some sort of probable cause, or something like that?

Yes, the court just ruled the presence of drugs is PC for the arrest of everybody.

46 posted on 12/15/2003 2:41:46 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Why were the police doing such a thorough search for a speeding ticket?

Cop's version:

1. Cop stops car for speeding.

2. Cop asks driver for papers.

3. Driver retrieves papers from glove compartment.

4. Cop notices cash inside glove compartment.

5. Cop runs papers through police computer.

6. Driver has no warrants.

7. [Cop frustrated]

8. Cop asks permission to search car.

9. Driver grants permission to cop [under duress, of course.]

10. Cop finds drugs.

11. At first, no one admitted putting the drugs in the arm rest. Everybody arrested.

12. Eventually, the passenger fesses up to the the drugs being his.

13. Passenger convicted.

As long as them low lives are being railroaded with these laws, us don't care. [/s]

Joseph Jermaine Pringle v. State of Maryland

47 posted on 12/15/2003 2:41:51 PM PST by george wythe
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To: Husker24
It works the other way, too....I drive taxi on the weekends. Do I have to search my fares for drugs now?
48 posted on 12/15/2003 2:42:25 PM PST by axxmann
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To: eastforker
As far as the search who knows,maybe the driver gave permission which brings up another point. If there are 2 or more passengers in the vehicle shouldn't it take the permission of all to search without a warrant?

No warrant is needed to search immediately accessable areas of a vehicle. During any detention a Terry search may be performed for the officier's safety without a warrant.

49 posted on 12/15/2003 2:44:29 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: ask
Our rulers have spoken.
50 posted on 12/15/2003 2:44:33 PM PST by King Black Robe (With freedom of religion and speech now abridged, it is time to go after the press.)
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To: danneskjold
Arrest does not equal guilt.The hell you say. Have you any idea what amount of cash it takes to prove you are not guilty? Never mind the anguish and inconvenience of having to bail out of jail, missing work for court, etc. Why do you think so many people accept plea bargains even if innocent, it's cheaper and punishment is less than if convicted. IMHO there is an agenda in this country to convict as many people of felonies as possible to keep them from gun ownership and to also keep a data base on them. OK, call me paranoid if you will, but somebody else give me a better explanation as to whats going on.
51 posted on 12/15/2003 2:46:55 PM PST by eastforker (Money is the key to justice,just ask any lawyer.)
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To: ask
Since I think it would be illegal go thru somebody's car to make sure they don't have anything illegal in them, how exactly do I go about making sure they are legal before I get a ride with them?
52 posted on 12/15/2003 2:48:00 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: eastforker
I'm not arguing, but do you know anyone personally that has had what you describe happend to them?
53 posted on 12/15/2003 2:48:21 PM PST by danneskjold
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To: AdamSelene235
Thanks for the info! My late grandfather was a NYC cop, and would never have stood for this kind of crap.
54 posted on 12/15/2003 2:48:26 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: AdamSelene235
Wrong,not here in texas.
55 posted on 12/15/2003 2:48:37 PM PST by eastforker (Money is the key to justice,just ask any lawyer.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
A number of musicians would have flunkies carry their drugs for them so that they could walk away from any charges.

I don't say this do defend the court's bad decision, just more information as to why celebs don't get busted. There have been cases where a celebrity's flunky may have even taken a murder rap.

56 posted on 12/15/2003 2:49:24 PM PST by weegee
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To: eastforker
IMHO there is an agenda in this country to convict as many people of felonies as possible to keep them from gun ownership and to also keep a data base on them.

Well, out of the 1 in 12 Americans convicted of a felony, barely half are imprisoned. Things that make you go, hmmmmmnnn.

57 posted on 12/15/2003 2:49:38 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: eastforker
Wrong,not here in texas.

Some states consider a vehicle an extension of one's abode. Most don't.

58 posted on 12/15/2003 2:50:33 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: Itzlzha
Can this ruling be applied to a car with POLITICIANS/JUDGES and OTHER POLICE when the get caught?...

"B**** set me up!!!"

59 posted on 12/15/2003 2:53:10 PM PST by weegee
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To: ask
A search revealed a roll of cash in the glove compartment

There you have it. "Your honor, this scumbag had CASH."
60 posted on 12/15/2003 2:53:37 PM PST by Colinsky
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