Phoenix: Is this what we want in our city (The effects of illegals)

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[riri]

I drove downtown about 6 months ago, admittedly I don't get out of the East Valley much...I was shocked at the shanty apartment houses, etc. All visible as I pulled off the exit.

[Incorrigible]

Aside from the Hispanic graffiti, isn't this what West Virginia looks like?

:-)

[vto]

Phoenix has welfare programs that attract welfare brats.

And jobs.

[Joe Hadenuf]

My neighborhood is now filled with people that think the front yard is a parking lot, and that standing in the front yard drinking Bud Light and partying after work is OK.

Businesses that fold because of declining neighborhoods are reemerging as dollar stores, check cashing marts, taco stands, or something that totally caters to Hispanics.

And unfortunately, it's just the tip of the iceberg.

And looking at what the Bush administration and his home land security chief stated last week, it wont be getting better, as their actions will only give the green light for millions more to enter illegally.

My only suggestion would be to try at all cost, to leave large cities and suburbs. As that is, without a doubt, where the overall majority of illegals are headed..If you can't do that, good luck...

[Weimdog]

This is disturbing -

THE PRESIDENT: "Well, first of all, I have constantly said that we need to have a immigration policy THAT HELPS MATCH ANY WILLING EMPLOYER WITH ANY WILLING EMPLOYEE. It makes sense that that policy go forward. And we're in the process of working that through now so I can make a recommendation to the Congress."

"Let me also clarify something. This administration is firmly against blanket amnesty."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/

[WackyKat]

My neighborhood is now filled with people that think the front yard is a parking lot, and that standing in the front yard drinking Bud Light and partying after work is OK.

Bud Light?

At least when I pass out in my yard, it's from drinking Heineken

[fso301]

Let the companies keep outsourcing to India and China and see how long it is before Americans cross over the border into Mexico in search of work.

[hsmomx3]

Phil Gordon thinks downtown is wonderful as do other well connected individuals which is why they want to spend so much of our money to "improve" it. I will not nor do I have a desire to go downtown. I haven't been there in 14 years.

[Joe Hadenuf]

That's part of the big problem. As we move more towards a service economy in these cities, that's the draw. Employers don't want to pay American's a livable, higher wage, when there is an endless line of cheap labor, that will work for near nothing. It's a vicious circle.....

[gubamyster]

You should see the neighborhoods in the Highland Park area of LA. Aside from the other squalor living conditions, people hang clothes for sale on the chain link fences in front of their houses, turn their front lawns and any empty lot into a bazaar by putting their "wares" on the ground, and sell food from carts (including flaming grills). This is the same type of open-air bazaar I saw when I lived in Turkmenistan. If I was a shop owner who had to buy a business license, follow other ordinances, pay for rent & utilities I would be pretty upset by these squatters setting up shop in front of their house or on the street corners.

[riri]

Phil Gordon thinks downtown is wonderful as do other well connected individuals

Yeah, if you wear blinders until you are safely inside your destination.

They think it is so wonderful, I bet none of them reside there or send their kids to school there.

[international american]

"And unfortunately, it's just the tip of the iceberg."

How many cities in California has this happened to? Dozens!!

[Joe Hadenuf]

It should be clear to anyone that the government has no intention of stopping this madness.

That's is why I stated, the only thing one can do is attempt to get out of large cities and the surrounding suburbs. There is no doubt the direction most will be headed..

[Lil'freeper]

Aside from the Hispanic graffiti, isn't this what West Virginia looks like?

Alas, WV has trees.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Those who are selling out the people of America for cheap labor, will themselves ultimately suffer the blight that it has brought us all.

The sellouts who are turning the US into the Brazil of the north and think we are a shopping mall in constant need of cheap labor will not suffer any consequences. Those types will live in gated communities or move out of the country completely when the ship goes down.

[Cicero]

I agree. Anybody who drinks Bud Lite deserves whatever he gets.

[Mamzelle]

Wait until you see what's happened in the rural areas and small towns, and quite far away from the borders, too. Suburbs might be better off than the cities and rural.

[Britton J Wingfield]

taco stands, or something that totally caters to Hispanics.

Thank god for plenty of good 24-hour taco stands!

[Joe Hadenuf]

How many cities in California has this happened to? Dozens!!

Yep. And throw in the cities of Raligh North Carolina, Atlanta, Phoenix, Denver, Houston, Dallas, Portland Oregon, cities in Tennessee, Salt Lake city, Chicago, and on and on.

It's very sad, but this is where most cities and their surrounding suburbs are heading. Bet the rent. If one want's to live with boom boxes of Spanish music, lots of drinking, trash, busted up cars, high crime, etc fine. Otherwise, have a plan of getting out of the big cities, and the suburbs...

This is the only way one will be able to escape most of it. That is unless one has big time money, and can live in gated, wealthy secured communities.....Even then, one has to go out into it daily. Not a real good option.