[ArneFufkin]

I'm angry at Chris for leaving his wife, family and friends in such a heartbroken, lifelong conditon. That's selfish as hell. Life is precious, his action is tragic ... for THOSE HE LEFT BEHIND.

It is increasingly evident, from this thread, and the Schiavo thread, that self-indulgent people here have no intuitive boundaries. It's all about the Godliness. It's the "let's all bond" over no valid reason pathology.

Depression is well know, he knew he had the disease. That's evident from the online communiques that have been linked here before. He couldn't get over mommas death. Well, Mom and Dad die people. I know, my two marvelous parents are gone, way too early. Dad's gonna kick my ass up north if I pull this shit. He should have sought help. He knew his condition. He's not a man to be admired. He left a wife alone, not as a victim, but in everyone's eyes going forward as someone who didn't do enough, see enough, feel enough and care enough. "How could she let him do this ... or did she drive him to this? Hmmmmmmm?" She's the forever perp here! Bitch!

"What could we have done"? "What didn't we see?" "What must he have been going through?" Bullshit! Who would put people you love into that lifelong "coulda shoulda woulda" torment?

Consider this my FR Opus. This place is insane.

[Born in a Rage]

leaving his wife, family and friends in such a heartbroken, lifelong conditon. That's selfish as hell. Life is precious, his action is tragic ... for THOSE HE LEFT BEHIND.

I agree. Also, suicide is self-murder and what people go to hell for.

[carlo3b]

Consider this my FR Opus. This place is insane.

Don't do anything rash, unless you think it's in your best interest..

[Salvation]

**"coulda shoulda woulda" torment? **

But some people don't realize they are dealing with guilt (rather it is realistic or unrealstic) as they travel through depression.

I think the most important thing for everyone experiencing depression to remember is:

Life is a journey!

[NeoCaveman]

It is increasingly evident, from this thread, and the Schiavo thread, that self-indulgent people here have no intuitive boundaries. It's all about the Godliness. It's the "let's all bond" over no valid reason pathology.

Consider this my FR Opus. This place is insane.

Bye. I'd like to say I'll miss you but my aim is quite good.

P.S. Why not do an opus thread instead of pissing all over this one?

[TheSpottedOwl]

He knew his condition. He's not a man to be admired. He left a wife alone, not as a victim, but in everyone's eyes going forward as someone who didn't do enough, see enough, feel enough and care enough. "How could she let him do this ... or did she drive him to this? Hmmmmmmm?" She's the forever perp here! Bitch!

What the heck is your problem? He had mental problems. No one is admiring him for committing suicide; rather this thread is about how many people suffer from depression. We want to know why this happens. Suicide is such a tragedy for the survivors. I can't believe you could be this insensitive.

Consider this my FR Opus. This place is insane.

You got it bud.

[cyborg]

Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

My brother drowned himself in a freezing Wisconsin river some years ago.

Speaking only for myself: One thing I never - not for a second - felt toward him was anger, and (unlike some here) I don't believe he's burning in hell.

But that's because I knew him, was aware of his pain, and I knew the state of his spiritual life. I know why he did it. I wish with all my heart and soul that he hadn't, but I know why he did. His absence in our lives is the only thing that hurt our family - if others didn't understand it, or got angry with him, or whatever, it's because they did not know what he was going through.

I very much hope you will reconsider your decision to leave over this kind of stuff. I probably wouldn't have posted on this thread, but I saw your post and while I agree with some of what you said, I felt the need as the sister of a suicidal person to throw in here.

[CovenBuster]

I'm so glad you're gone. It's hard to imagine how someone could be so thick that they couldn't understand why such an attitude would promote hopelessness in someone who's already so close to giving up hope. I truly believe that's why we lose so many who could be saved -- because they fear disclosing their innermost despair lest they open up to an oaf such as you.

God help any of your loved ones who might be facing abject depression at some point in their life. I pray you get down off your high horse before someone you love really needs you.

[Fred Mertz]

I don't think you understand depression, Arne. It's something untouchable, unexplainable and sometimes very destructive.

I don't claim to understand it either, but I've seen it.

[Bush2004]

I'm angry ....

Consider this my FR Opus.

And I hardly knew ye.....how could I let this happen?

[Lazamataz]

Consider this my FR Opus.

Please author a thread. Every good opus needs a thread.

[Fangorn]

You're a real charmer, Arne. Just back from time out and telling me to f*** off via FRmail...

Bright, very bright, after those wonderful pulled posts that got you in the naughty corner in the first place. Looks like "gifted and talented" are two words you never saw on your report card.