Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Stop Dean
The Weekly Standard ^ | 12/22/03 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 12/12/2003 9:20:37 PM PST by Pokey78

Al Gore's endorsement signaled an pivotal moment for the Democratic party. Who can stop Dean now?

AL GORE'S ENDORSEMENT of Howard Dean was anything but polite. A more diplomatic politician would have praised Dean's major rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination--Dick Gephardt, Joe Lieberman, John Kerry, John Edwards, Wesley Clark--as esteemed colleagues and said they were all capable of being president (including one selected by Gore himself as his 2000 running mate). Instead the former vice president dismissed the whole bunch as "great candidates."

"Only one" candidate for the 2004 nomination, said Gore, had stepped forward as he had and come out early, loudly, and extravagantly against President Bush's decision to invade Iraq. "Our nation in its 200-year history has never made a worse foreign policy mistake," Gore said. And there was more. "We need to remake the Democratic party. We need to remake America."

Chances are, Gore's endorsement didn't sway many voters. But it did signify a pivotal moment for the Democratic party. The party has shifted. The antiwar, Bush-loathing, culturally liberal left now has the upper hand. Its dominance will likely culminate in Dean's nomination.

This is an event to be feared. Why? Because it will harm the Democratic party and lead to a general election campaign brimming with bitter assaults on the very idea of an assertive, morality-based American role in the world. And all this will play out as the war on terrorism, and the outcome in Iraq, hang in the balance. Gore's lurch to the left and Dean's likely nomination mean trouble.

Can Dean be stopped? A stop-Dean movement may appear quixotic, but it's not. Dean has no lock on Iowa, and a lead even as large as Dean's in New Hampshire is always precarious. Many Democrats are terrified that a nominee who vehemently opposes the war, likens the Bush administration to the Taliban, and plans to raise taxes on the middle class can't be elected. But they've been scared into silence by Dean's tough talk and momentum.

The worst offenders on this score are Dean's Democratic opponents. Dean is vulnerable on at least two issues, taxes and the war. But his rivals have confronted him effectively on neither. At the Democratic debate in New Hampshire last week, Kerry was asked by ABC's Ted Koppel why he hadn't raised his hand to show he thinks Dean could defeat Bush. What an opening! Kerry was free to insist, before the largest New Hampshire audience he'll ever have, that Bush would crucify Dean on the tax issue. But he lamely explained the reason he didn't raise his hand was his belief "in my vision for the country." Only when interviewed after the debate did Kerry attack Dean's tax hike proposal, declaring taxes the chief difference between himself and Dean. It was too late. No one was watching.

Lieberman and Gephardt, both backers of the war, have been no more aggressive in criticizing Dean on Iraq. Sure, they're wary of provoking boos and hisses from the Democratic activists who attend debates. But a plurality of Democratic voters in New Hampshire support the invasion of Iraq. Why not remind everyone that Dean would have left Saddam Hussein in power, with his mass graves, torture chambers, $25,000 stipends for families of Palestinian suicide bombers, ties to al Qaeda, and all?

Dean's foes have let him get away with insinuating that Bush may have been told about the 9/11 attacks beforehand by the Saudis. Dean raised this loony-left conspiracy theory during a radio interview on December 1 and called it "interesting." Kerry, Lieberman, Gephardt, and the others let it pass. On December 6 on "Fox News Sunday," Dean was asked about the theory. He said he didn't personally believe it, "but we don't know and it'd be nice to know" if it's true. Again, not a word from his rivals. And last week, after Koppel questioned Dean about it in the New Hampshire debate, Dean's opponents said nothing.

Two other Democrats are threatened by Dean and Gore: Bill and Hillary Clinton. Dean would undo Clinton's previous shift of the party to the center. Gore would make the prowar position unacceptable for a Democrat in 2008, when he challenges Hillary for the presidential nomination. Bill Clinton has warned Democrats against becoming "more liberal" and Hillary has backed the Iraq invasion. For themselves and their party, and because others haven't the moxie to step forward, it's time for the Clintons to take on Dean.

--Fred Barnes


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; algore; fredbarnes; howarddean; stopdean; weeklystandard
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last

1 posted on 12/12/2003 9:20:37 PM PST by Pokey78
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
This is an event to be feared. Why? Because it will harm the Democratic party ....

And this is supposed to be bad, why....?

2 posted on 12/12/2003 9:37:56 PM PST by Post Toasties
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
What we are witnessing is the fall of the democrat party, The split we are seeing between the moderate Democrats and the far left is much more threatening to the democrat party's survival than any of the past divisions we have seen from both party's. The Split we saw in 1992 when Ross Perot ran against GHW Bush is far less than what the democrats are in the middle of.

There is a major struggle underway for the purse strings of the DNC, On one side we have Terry McAuliffe, the DLC and the Clinton's who are behind the scenes making sure none of the 9 Nincumpoops end up in the White House in 2004 in order to set the stage for Hildabeast in 2008.

On the other side, we have the far left liberals who have managed to get lots of support from every wacko special interest group out there and Howard Dean is their angry lefty of choice. Meanwhile the far left has MoveOn.org raising money from George Soros and other assorted Socialist and now Al Gore has arrived to settle a score with the Clinton's.

Al Gore is motivated because by all rights he should have had control of the DNC after he won the nomination in 2000, but somehow a lame duck president was the one who nominated the Chairman of the DNC, Slick Willy did very little to help Gore during his Campaign and I can't help but think it was part of a plan for Hillary to run in '04, but 9/11 came along all plans for Hillary changed after witnessing the way GWB stood up to the challenge.

I predict a major effort by Hillary, Bill and Terry McAuliffe if Howard Dean maintains the lead he enjoys right now. You can best believe that McAuliffe is working behind the scenes to undermine Dean, with the other 8 losers up for the nomination. If after the South Carolina primary and Dean is winning big, I bet we will see attack ad's coming from a 527 group made up of and funded by the DLC. Probably even Harold Ickies newly founded 527 group.

These Democrats are going to carve themselves into pieces and if you think the left hates Bush now, wait until after the Democrat party splits :-)

3 posted on 12/12/2003 9:46:15 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats Have Reached Rock Bottom and The Digging Continues)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78

Following a minor dip, on news of Gephardt's opinion poll results in Iowa, Dean's stock resumes its ascent on the Iowa Electronic Market.

4 posted on 12/12/2003 9:55:33 PM PST by cynwoody
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cynwoody
Okay, I give up.

Who the heck is ROF (the purple line that tanked in Sept)?

5 posted on 12/12/2003 10:24:21 PM PST by ZOOKER
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: ZOOKER
ROF=Roll on Floor

Gore endorsing Dean is the equivalent of Death endorsing Taxes.

FRegards...

6 posted on 12/12/2003 10:38:22 PM PST by smoothsailing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: MJY1288
Let's help Bill and Hill along and think up some names for the new party, created by the split, like the New Democrats. We can come up with something better than that, though. This could be fun.
7 posted on 12/12/2003 10:45:59 PM PST by Eva
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
Given how good Bush's handlers have been does anyone think that Gore was put up to this? Gore is practically a non-person politicaly. Gore throwing his small weight behind dean causes infighting in the party and takes eyes off of Bush.

Democrat's power has always been in pulling all the little diverse special interest groups together. Almost all the scenarios from this are of division. Is this the hands of Bush's people at work?

Not surprising is how close this comes to the Republicans stealing the health care/medicare issue from the dems. It all seems just too convenient. Brilliantly done if it was planned or aided along, great luck if not.

8 posted on 12/12/2003 11:06:59 PM PST by JSteff
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
One of two things will happen. Either the rest of the Dems will try to one-up Dean by outbashing Bush. If they do so, they will lose because no one can do the "angry-man" shtick as good as Dean. Edwards has figured this out and Kerry is coming around to that view as well. Labeling him as too right-wing (as they've tried with NAFTA and Medicare and Guns) will also not work because, even to the Dem base that is not credible. The second possibility: they will bash Dean as unelectable and weak on national security. They may even characterize his rescinding of middle class tax cuts as unfair to working Americans. There's a group led by former Gepheardt and Kerry campaign workers which is running a TV ad claiming Dean has zero foreign policy experience (it includes an image of Osama). Relentless attacks of this variety will soften Dean up and cause Clark to emerge as a serious competitor.
9 posted on 12/12/2003 11:27:18 PM PST by jagrmeister (I'm not a conservative. I don't seek to conserve, I seek to reform.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ZOOKER
Who the heck is ROF (the purple line that tanked in Sept)?

ROF = Rest of Field. Please read the prospectus carefully before you invest or send money.

10 posted on 12/12/2003 11:31:08 PM PST by cynwoody
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
Who can stop Dean now?

GWB backed by common sense politic's.

11 posted on 12/12/2003 11:32:03 PM PST by EGPWS
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MJY1288
Our nation, in its two-hundred year history? If Bush had ballparked that way, it would be headline on Reuters.
12 posted on 12/12/2003 11:32:10 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

Comment #13 Removed by Moderator

To: Pokey78
So, let me get this straight. Vietnam was what, a just war because the North Vietnamese were somehow a threat to us? Wasn't our involvement in that war started and escalated by, um, Democrat presidents? Didn't tens of thousands of American soldiers die there? Wasn't it a Republican that got us out of that debacle?

But Iraq is the worst decision in American history?
14 posted on 12/13/2003 1:20:58 AM PST by showpro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78

The Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent

hyperlinked images of shame
copyright Mia T 2003
.

by Mia T, 4.6.03

 

If Act I was a thinly veiled allegory about naked clintonism, then Act II is a parable about the plan for world domination by the Establishment, aged hippies in pinstripes all, with their infantile, solipsistic world view amazingly untouched by time.

 

Mia T, THE ALIENS

 

Al From is sounding the alarm. "Unless we convince Americans that Democrats are strong on national security," he warns his party, "Democrats will continue to lose elections."

Helloooo? That the Democrats have to be spoon-fed what should be axiomatic post-9/11 is, in and of itself, incontrovertible proof that From's advice is insufficient to solve their problem.

From's failure to fully lay out the nature of the Democrats' problem is not surprising: he is the guy who helped seal his party's fate. It was his Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) that institutionalized the proximate cause of the problem, clintonism, and legitimized its two eponymic provincial operators on the national stage. The "Third Way" and "triangulation" don't come from the same Latin root for no reason.

That "convince" is From's operative word underscores the Democrats' dilemma. Nine-eleven was transformative. It is no longer sufficient merely to convince. One must demonstrate, demonstrate convincingly, if you will… which means both in real time and historically.

When it comes to national security, Americans will no longer take any chances. Turning the turn of phrase back on itself, the era of the Placebo President is over. (Incidentally, the oft-quote out-of-context sentence fragment alluded to here transformed meaningless clinton triangulation into a meaningful if deceptive soundbite.)

Although From is loath to admit it -- the terror in his eyes belies his facile solution -- the Democratic party's problem transcends its anti-war contingent.

With a philosophy that relinquishes our national sovereignty -- and relinquishes it reflexively… and to the UN no less -- the Democratic party is, by definition, the party of national insecurity.

With policy ruled by pathologic self-interest -- witness the "Lieberman Paradigm," Kerry's "regime change" bon mot (gone bad), Edwards' and the clintons' brazen echoes thereof (or, alternatively, Pelosi's less strident wartime non-putdown putdown)… and, of course, the clincher -- eight years of the clintons' infantilism, grotesquerie and utter failure -- the Democratic party is, historically and in real time, the party of national insecurity.

The Democrats used to be able to wallpaper their national insecurity with dollars and demogoguery. But that was before 9/11.

P.S. As for pathologic self-interest, check out Richard Miniter's C-SPAN interview; the interview is contained in my latest virtual hillary movie (below), hillary talks:ON TERROR; it is absolutely devastating for the clintons. Miniter presents the clintons' monumental failure to protect America in breathtaking detail.

Note in particular Madeleine Albright's shocking reason given at the time of the USS Cole attack why the clinton administration should not respond militarily. It tell us everything we need to know about the clintons. It tell us why clinton redux is an absolutely suicidal notion.

Notwithstanding their cowardice, corruption, perfidy and essential stupidity, the clintons, according to Albright, made their decision not to go after the terrorists primarily for reasons of their own legacy and power. The clintons reasoned that such inaction would MAXIMIZE THEIR CHANCES TO RECEIVE THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. No matter that that inaction would also maximize the terrorists' power, maximize America's danger.

 

 


hillary talks:ON TERROR
(reinstalling the clintons in the White House has one advantage over suicide)


(viewing movie requires Flash Player 6, available HERE)

missus clinton's REAL virtual office update
http://hillarytalks.blogspot.com
http://virtualclintonlibrary.blogspot.com
http://demmemogate.blogspot.com
http://www.hillarytalks.us
http://www.hillarytalks.org
fiendsofhillary.blogspot.com
fiendsofhillary.us
fiendsofhillary.org
fraudsofhillary.com

15 posted on 12/13/2003 1:32:50 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
Al Gore's endorsement signaled a pivotal moment for the Democratic party. Who can stop Dean now?

---- only Hillary

16 posted on 12/13/2003 1:46:08 AM PST by thesummerwind (like painted kites, those days and nights, they went flyin' by)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #17 Removed by Moderator

To: Eva
Let's help Bill and Hill along and think up some names for the new party, created by the split, like the New Democrats. We can come up with something better than that, though. This could be fun.

Call it what it will be...Communist Party USA.

18 posted on 12/13/2003 6:37:23 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannolis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: mahinahoku
Re taxes, his strength is because of the balanced budgets in Vermont during his terms. This does not make Bush's Texas financial disaster, and our deficit, look good

He balanced the budget? That was done by the Republican Gov. who died in office and left him as gov. In addition..his state has about the same population as our county. Not much of a resume'for someone who wants to be the "most powerful man in the world."

19 posted on 12/13/2003 6:45:58 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannolis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: geodesy
"The Democrats are having a primary. It is a competition for who is to be the candidate to run against Bush"

No Kidding

20 posted on 12/13/2003 7:14:14 AM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats Have Reached Rock Bottom and The Digging Continues)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-22 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson