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Gore, Dean Form 'Anti-Clinton' Party, Well Left of Center
Real Clear Politics ^ | 12/12/03 | Mort Kondracke

Posted on 12/12/2003 6:44:33 PM PST by bdeaner

December 12, 2003
Gore, Dean Form 'Anti-Clinton' Party, Well Left of Center

By Mort Kondracke

"We need to remake the Democratic party," former Vice President Al Gore declared Tuesday in endorsing former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean. What did he mean by that? Judging by where Al Gore has been and where he's heading, "remaking" the party means tearing it away from the winning formula established by his old mentor, President Bill Clinton.

Clinton was a "new Democrat," a "triangulator," a centrist who could steal issues from the Republicans and appeal to Southerners and moderates as well as the traditional Democratic base vote.

Gore, too, once was a moderate, a founder of the centrist Democratic Leadership Council and a hawk on foreign policy. He's been moving left ever since he won the Democratic nomination in 2000 and that's culminated now in his partnership with Dean.

Old Clinton hands think that Gore's endorsement-in Harlem, where Bill Clinton has his office-was also a down-payment on a possible second run for president in 2008, as an opponent of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.)

Later Tuesday in Iowa, boiling over with emotion, Gore declared:

"this nation has never in our two centuries made a worse foreign policy mistake than what George W. Bush made in putting our troops into that quagmire in Iraq.

It was a horrible misjudgment. And therefore, it is not a minor matter to me that the candidate for the nomination of my party that had the good judgment, experience and sense to feel and see and articulate the right choice was Howard Dean."

Dean was not only different from other major 2004 candidates in opposing the war - he also differed from Sen. Clinton, who voted to authorize President Bush to go to war and then voted for the $87 billion to finance occupation and reconstruction operations in the aftermath.

Sen. Clinton appears to be setting herself up as a presidential candidate - like her husband - who can appeal to both the Democratic base that comprises 30-odd percent of the electorate and to the Independent 40 percent that it takes to win general elections.

Following Gore on the Harlem program, Dean made it clear that he's mainly about solidifying the base, not reaching out to Independents.

"In 2002, we lost a lot of races in the Democratic party because we decided that we were going to go to the swing votes and we were going to try to get them and our base was going to come along later on," Dean said.

"I think it's important in this campaign that we recognize those people who were with us all along," he said. "And so we made a conscious decision to start with women, to start with the African-American community, to start with the trade union movement," as opposed to following what he said was the losing strategy of voting 85 percent of the time with President Bush.

Dean has based his entire nomination strategy on being the anti-Bush, the vessel of Democratic hatred for the president. Gore, too, has steadily become more acerbic toward Bush.

In February 2002, in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and Bush's State of the Union message declaring Iraq, Iran and North Korea, Gore spoke at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York and said, "there is value in calling evil by its name."

He went on to say that, as to Iraq, "a final reckoning...should be on the table," provided that "this time, if we resort to force, we must absolutely get it right... Failure cannot be an option."

Steadily, though, Gore has been more militantly against the war and against Bush, accusing him in one speech of "a systematic effort to manipulate facts in service to a totalistic ideology that is felt to be more important than the mandates of basic honesty."

And, in another speech, Gore said that the Bush administration was "determined to use fear as a political tool to consolidate its power and escape any accountability for its use."

At the Democratic convention in 2000, Gore stopped being a Clintonian centrist and became a "people versus the powerful" populist. His only nod to the center was the naming of Sen. Joe Lieberman (Conn.) as his runningmate.

Lieberman aides noted that Lieberman found out he was Gore's choice from media reports then - just as he found out about Gore's endorsement of Dean.

On NBC's "Today" show, Lieberman correctly observed that "Al Gore is endorsing somebody who has taken positions that are diametrically opposite to what Al himself has said he believed over the years...strong on defense, for tax cuts and against walls of protectionism that take away jobs."

Gore, the 2000 populist, nearly won the presidential election. Could Dean do the same, appealing only to the Democratic base vote and simply bringing more base-like voters-young, computer-savvy liberals-to the polls?

Pundits say that Dean will do more than that - that, once nominated, he'll move to the center on budgets, defense and health care. But that's going to be hard to do. After all, he's declared that he will repeal all of Bush's tax cuts, even for the middle class.

It looks to me as though the Dean-Gore party is stuck far to the left side of the political spectrum and that it will take Hillary Clinton, of all people, to drag it back to the center.


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KEYWORDS: 2004; algore; billclinton; democrats; dlc; dnc; election; georgewbush; hillaryclinton; howarddean; joeleiberman; kondracke; mortkondracke; primaries; x42
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Al & Dean. What a pair.

Of losers.

1 posted on 12/12/2003 6:44:34 PM PST by bdeaner
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I don't really understand how you can consider clinton a "moderate," unless you are standing way over the to left. He pretended to be moderate, but I don't consider it moderate to veto a partial birth abortion bill or start out your first day in office by pushing gays in the military and forced abortions in third-world country at taxpayer expense.
2 posted on 12/12/2003 6:59:08 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
If Clinton is "moderate" relative to Dean . . . Probably says more about Dean than it does Clinton.
3 posted on 12/12/2003 7:02:24 PM PST by bdeaner
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To: bdeaner
Not that I mind - AT ALL - that Al takes the dems more to the left, because I think it's going to lose them lots of votes with so-called moderate dems, but this sounds like a shooting-yourself-in-the-foot scenario. If there is one thing that X42 did, and the article hits on it - he is a liberal who knew how to work both sides, and how to sound more moderate, and that is how he got elected. Oh, that and Ross Perot, that is!
4 posted on 12/12/2003 7:15:35 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Just a conservative CA gal, living in lib-land....)
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To: Theresawithanh
But, then again, watch Dean do an about-face if he gets the nomination. I predict he will quickly change his tune to appeal to more moderate voters. Not that it will be easy for him to do, now that he's pretty much backed himself into a corner. Nevertheless, he's changed colors before, he will probably do it again when it is convenient.
5 posted on 12/12/2003 7:20:31 PM PST by bdeaner
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Zell Miller was on TV Thursday evening and explained that the Democratic Party is divided into two factions--far left and far, far left. Gore and Dean represent the far, far left. He excused his support for Clinton in 1992 and 1996 by reciting some of the moderate-sounding slogans Clinton had used.
6 posted on 12/12/2003 7:25:22 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Has anyone started a betting pool on the Democrats in 2004 yet?

Who will be the nominee? Who will be his running mate?

(If Dean, then how long before he self destructs)

7 posted on 12/12/2003 7:27:22 PM PST by Steel Wolf (There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.)
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To: Steel Wolf
This is starting to sound more and more like Pro Wrestling.

Dean and Gore have formed a Coalition against the Clinton side.

8 posted on 12/12/2003 7:29:13 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (A tiger is a tiger. Some things you can't change no matter how hard you try.)
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To: bdeaner
This may completely backfire. If Dean/Gore are the saviors to the far left, who will save the middle? Uh huh. You know who will sweep in and unite the party... that big, ugly bird that feeds on the carcasses of stupid jackasses... you know, Hillary.

I may be a little tin foilish, but we should all be very careful what we wish for with a Dean/Gore marriage. It only sets Hillary and Bill up as the saviors of the party. And the desperate, leftist masses will fall for it hook, line, and sinker. And probably some of the misguided centrists too.

9 posted on 12/12/2003 7:30:35 PM PST by rintense
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So why do all the RAT pundits keep telling us dean is a "moderate" or even a "conservative"? Could they be typical lying RATs?
10 posted on 12/12/2003 7:31:59 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: rintense
The only person other than Dean the leftists will be voting for is Ralph Nader.
11 posted on 12/12/2003 7:32:55 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (A tiger is a tiger. Some things you can't change no matter how hard you try.)
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To: bdeaner
Finally, something I agree with the Dems on.
12 posted on 12/12/2003 7:33:07 PM PST by mrfixit514
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To: ConservativeMan55
Yes, and when they lose miserably, who will be left to resurrect the party??? We all know who is positioning herself to do so. She's already started by hitting the Sunday talk shows and taking a more centrist tone with issues she had previously slammed Bush left and right. The woman has made a deal with the devil. And we'll be getting a 2 for 1 deal with her.
13 posted on 12/12/2003 7:35:27 PM PST by rintense
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To: ozzymandus
So why do all the RAT pundits keep telling us dean is a "moderate" or even a "conservative"? Could they be typical lying RATs?

A few possibilities:
1) Wishful thinking
2) Backpeddling spin (aka, lying RATS)
3) They're dumb as a box of hammers

All of the above?
14 posted on 12/12/2003 7:35:40 PM PST by bdeaner
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To: rintense
You're talking about in 2008 right?

I'm hoping by then we will have Jeb Bush and a couple other good candidates to take over at that point.
15 posted on 12/12/2003 7:37:02 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (A tiger is a tiger. Some things you can't change no matter how hard you try.)
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To: rintense
Not completely tin foil, actually. Not the first time I've heard that scenario.
16 posted on 12/12/2003 7:39:11 PM PST by bdeaner
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To: Steel Wolf
It is Dean's race to lose at this point.

I have no idea who he'll choose for a running mate. Could be the beast herself, but I doubt it, with the way he's positioned himself in opposition to the Clinton team.
17 posted on 12/12/2003 7:43:52 PM PST by bdeaner
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To: Cicero
Do you suppose that this might be purposeful cooperative triangulation for Hillary's sake.

Kondracke is describing triangulation perfectly if you don't assume Dean and Clinton are enemies here.

Could it be a set-up with Algore as the dupe?

By autumn, the Democratic Party may 'suddenly decide' it needs a candidate with more 'gravitas' than Howard Dean.

Could the Clintons have engineered Dean's rise?

Then I hear Chris Wallace on Hannity today musing how 'nothing seems to stick to Howard Dean' in terms of the media reaction to his recent gaffes.

Maybe I need to adjust the tinfoil -- something smells fishy to me.

18 posted on 12/12/2003 7:58:09 PM PST by Monti Cello
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To: rintense
You know who will sweep in and unite the party... that big, ugly bird that feeds on the carcasses of stupid jackasses... you know, Hillary.

It's too late for that now or in the future. Everyone knows who Hillary is and what she would do...

The Dems are toast for decades to come as long as the Clinton's are around.

19 posted on 12/12/2003 8:03:45 PM PST by sirchtruth
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To: bdeaner
Mort get you're head out of there.. THATS DIRTY....
20 posted on 12/12/2003 8:06:24 PM PST by hosepipe
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