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Hundreds of Hispanics Protest in California
Associated Press ^ | ROBERT JABLON

Posted on 12/12/2003 5:00:51 PM PST by stevie_d_64

LOS ANGELES - Hundreds of Hispanics protested the repeal of a law allowing illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses, taking to the streets Friday in a statewide boycott of schools and businesses.

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The daylong boycott was intended to highlight the economic contribution of California's Hispanic community, the nation's largest.

About 400 people marched into East Los Angeles, waving signs that read, in Spanish, "Yes, we can" and "We want licenses now."

"People come to this country for opportunity. That's what we're fighting for," said Pablo Lopez, 44. Lopez said he was an illegal immigrant for 12 years and drove without a license, but was always afraid of getting stopped and deported.

"We come here to work hard and we have family that we have to protect. If we don't have a license, we won't be able to do that," he said.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (news - web sites) fulfilled a major campaign promise last week when he repealed the license law, signed in September by then-Gov. Gray Davis (news - web sites).

The extent of the boycott was not immediately clear. At 11.9 million, Hispanics make up about a third of the population of California.

The protest was planned to coincide with the feast of the Virgin of Guadalupe. Planned events included a march of school children in Los Angeles and rallies in San Jose and San Francisco.

At least one school system tried to pre-empt a student walkout. The Santa Ana district offered to raffle off a color TV for those who came to school, and sent home a note to parents urging them not to keep their children home.

In downtown San Jose, more than 150 people set out on a march to the Department of Motor Vehicles.

Jesse Castaneda, 38, said Friday's strike is just a start.

"It's kind of awakening a sleeping giant," said Castaneda, who is Mexican-American. "They talk about illegal immigration, and they want to get rid of all the illegal immigrants. What would happen at a state level if that were to happen? They'll realize that we are needed here."

Another target of the boycott was Clear Channel, which owns 1,200 radio stations nationwide and broadcasts a Los Angeles-based talk show that Hispanics say frequently attacks immigrant rights. Clear Channel did not immediately return calls.

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Associated Press writers Deborah Kong and Gillian Flaccus contributed to this report.


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To: Allegra
And the music.

Heh. One of our neighbors had a full DJ setup, complete with disco ball suspended somehow, and they blasted music until 4 AM. Awful, just awful.

81 posted on 12/13/2003 8:26:18 PM PST by ReagansShinyHair
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To: Happy2BMe
600 years? What continent? You let your indignation get the best of you on that one.

Duh... They live in Scotland, then and now. 600 years is the direct Parent - Child records by name/birthplace/marriage/deaths. It goes further but there are no records in our possession dated earlier than the 1400's. It ain't indignation as almost all assume, it is dated documents, church records and deed and family records contained in the library of the family castle near Newtonmore. Finished to near its current configuration around 1500, it has existed a working farming estate since about 1270. They hit the Virgina colonies about 1670. From there everything is documented in a private published book "25 Families of the South."

Next time ya wanna blow off at the mouth about family, give pause . . . .

Hehe... check around in some of the factual posting of this thread for projected population balances in the next thirty years.

Guess what. Even the most conservative projectiions place Mexicans as the overwhelming majority in the United States by 2030.

That's population, voting, political, social, and economic majority dear friend.

This is not my projection. These are scientific projections by knowledgabel unbiased people making them based on 2003 trends and averages from the past twenty years.

projection, projection, projection . . .

When you're talking about your "lineage," trust me, I'm right there with you on heritage and longevity on this continent (I can trace back to 1100).

French, I presume.

You don't get it do you? It ain't about lineage, lineage is just the result of the entire point that you have missed. Lets try again. From my previous post . . . The idea that a bunch of ignorant racists from a third world county are going to run me and mine out is not only naive to the point of endangerment, it is something we have F - O - U - G - H - T _ _ W - A - R - S over, both on this continent and the continent we came from. By the way, we still own all that land as well.

Did it register this time? We haven't been around for that length of time because we think it's "cool." We have this thing about taking care of our OWN business and kicking everyones A$$es that gets in the way of that. The end result is, we have been around for a recorded 600 years.

There is an old joke that will put this into perspective (maybe) . . .

Q. What is the difference between the Irish and the Scots?

A. The Irish get drunk and fight. The Scots, well they just fight.

But none of that matters now. Notta. Not even.

Our own personal lineage, history, and sovergnty with the good ole' USofA is about to go up as a vapor on a hot summer day.

You watch, in the next six months, Dubya is going to grant blanket amnesty (as was also done in 1996).

Well, lets see " personal lineage, history, and sovergnty ...is about to go up as a vapor on a hot summer day.

LOOSER. You have given up in advance of anything actually occurring!

COWARD. Just because "somebody projected" you are all ready rolling over. You are dead RIGHT NOW.

Worthless as pi$$ in a polluted river. You are not even going to try, you just want to quote some projected statistic 20 YEARS down the road and tell me, ME, that I had better give up now?

F#(& Y*#!

Let's all hope your personal lineage does go up in a wisp of pee steam. You have no business polluting the gene pool, you will only stain it yellow.

And now for something that you might have to think about for a while . . . words of wisdom. See if you can figure out who said this and you just might have a bit of insight to survival. His sons, Winston and John used to run around with my grandfather and his brothers about 9 generations back.

They tell us, sir, that we are weak, unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed...? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of Hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

THAT is survivor instinct.

TLI

82 posted on 12/13/2003 11:24:22 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: TLI
What will you do when your grandchildren start speaking Spanish to keep competitive in the job market?

If they live in any state west of Oklahoma in 2003, they are already disadvantaged if they are unable to speak it.

That goes for Florida and New York on the east coast as well.

Will you call them piss ants, losers, cowards, and the other petty names you slur about?

Your head is in a hole in the ground. You are not facing reality.

83 posted on 12/14/2003 2:20:42 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: stevie_d_64
Just detour the march south and keep 'em moving.
84 posted on 12/14/2003 2:23:02 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (We finally have enough laws and regulations to make us all unwitting criminals.)
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To: TLI
"His sons, Winston and John used to run around with my grandfather and his brothers about 9 generations back."

Your grandfather lived nine generations?

Impressive . .

85 posted on 12/14/2003 2:23:21 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: TLI
Looked at your personal page just to see what I was speaking to here.

Hint: The founding fathers would not tolerate a foreign invasion without a fight.

Fact: We are being invaded as we speak and are not fighting it. In fact, polititians are turning deaf ears and blind eyes to it.

Can you answer this one: Would America be depending on the infusion of an alien work force now if TWENTY MILLION AMERICANS HAD NOT BEEN ABORTED OVER THE PAST TWO DECADES?

Let's see what kind of man you really are.

86 posted on 12/14/2003 2:29:11 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: Allegra
So true. Loud blaring Mexican music day and night.
87 posted on 12/14/2003 9:08:24 AM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (Borders, Language, Culture - now more than ever)
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To: Happy2BMe
We are being invaded as we speak and are not fighting it. In fact, politicians are turning deaf ears and blind eyes to it.

Actually, quite a few folks are fighting it and yes, that is absolutely correct, politicians are turning deaf ears and blind eyes to it. What you don't mention is the communists in the fed gov are actively encouraging it to continue. For them, it is easy votes. Pass benefits, get cheap votes. The money is coming out of the pockets of folks that are not going to vote for their traitorous hides anyway which is why soooo many commie politicians are sucking up to the illegals.

It is also the feds that have propagandised the illegals issue with the LEA's to demonised anyone speaking out against it and arresting anyone that tries to stop them. It doesn't mean it won't work. It just means there is more work to be done educating the public that a bunch of diseased uneducated racist third worlders is NOT a good thing for this country.

The insane crap you spew is a perfect example. You seem to want to turn this country into an pee cee nightmare like Rhodesia. The end result will be no different. It is a wonderful thought to "free a people" but one must not loose track of the facts. Facts are . . . they (the communist blacks) are totally incapable of governing themselves beyond the tribal level without the whites being in control.

This is blindingly obvious to anyone that read the history of that area. There was no appreciable black population in that area until the whites came along and built the infrastructure. Roads, water systems, sewer systems, power plants etc. Once that was built, the blacks started showing up because they could live in a cheap apartment instead of a mud hut. Everything was just peachy till a bunch of whining commie libs got into government back in the UK and proclaimed that they knew better how the country should be run than the people that lived there. Thirty years later . . . the former breadbasket of Africa is a stinking $hithole. Did the Rhodies fight it? Of course, the Rhodesian forces were the finest that have ever existed in modern times. Some things they did then can not be duplicated by our own forces today. They were sold out by guess what? Politicians in "government." A LOT of people learned some very hard lessons from that era and they are not forgetting the lies that were spewed by government at the changeover. Every single thing that the opposition forces said would happen did happen. And in spades. Many are right here in America and have passed along that knowledge of the demise of the "Shining Star of Africa." Those same lies are being used today on this issue.

The facts here are . . . will the population of this country allow themselves to be overrun with mexicans? Fortunately, even the polls that are run by the biased communist agenda media consistently indicate the illegals are not wanted here, and a LARGE majority want them gone. Personally I agree. If they are so hard working, honest and law abiding as a people, they can go back to mexico and be honest, hard working and law abiding there. Well, the facts indicate that as a people they are NOT honest, hard working and law abiding. They are mexicans. From mexico. With all of its connotations.

When the dust clears from the next election, what is "done" regarding this issue will sharply influence the future events in this country. One way or another, the issue will be settled. Whether it is settled in a proper lawful manor is strictly up to the feds. They can enforce the current laws, close the border and methodically deports the illegals. The ones that are left will assimilate into the population. The ones that don't will not be successful and will, over time, disappear.

Or the fed gov can chose to not enforce the law. When the issue becomes life or death from the illegals turning the u.S. into the richest third world $hithole on earth the Americans will turn on them and the illegals. Better to get the illegals out now than later, because later is gonna be bloody holocaust. Now will merely be enforcing the law. Later will be train loads and cattle cars.

Yes, I will be there, whichever way it goes. I would rather it happen now, through the federal law enforcement agencies that are, in theory, there to enforce such laws. I gladly pay the taxes that allow them to exist. But if they choose to not do their jobs, if they choose to allow the criminal invasion to continue to the point that life in America will loose a vast portion of its appeal, then many of those very same federal law enforcement agencies will be turned on by the very people that they think they are protecting. At that point it will not matter one whit what fancy toys and gadgets they have, it will be tough to beat most of the American population with less than 200,000 feds.

Review the facts . . .

No one wants the illegals here except the communist politicians.

The border MUST close. If it does not, Americans will close it themselves.

If Americans have to close the border themselves the feds will go positively ape. When the few highly motivated Americans are shot at by the feds the massive majority of less motivated Americans will switch on that the feds are going to let America die, and then it will become a life or death situation for the majority of Americans.

At that point the Americans will do one of two things. One, elect whomever will close the border and get rid of the illegals. Or two, do it themselves, in which case any fed coming within a few miles of the border or any operation supporting the border closure forces will be stopped.

This will not go on for 20 years, this thing has a life of 2 to 5 years. What happens in the next 2 will determine how the remaining 3 will unfold.

As for the rest of your postings, ignorant flame bait, nothing more.

TLI

88 posted on 12/14/2003 10:56:49 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: TLI
I got down to the first few words and decided it was a waste of time.

I wish you at least one Mexican family on either side of your house, one across the street, and a new Mexican boss when you go to work today.

You deserve the best.

89 posted on 12/15/2003 4:24:29 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: stevie_d_64
"Hundreds of Hispanics protested the repeal of a law..."

How about "dozens?"
Several?

Big turnout in a state with 11.9 million hispanics, eh?

90 posted on 12/15/2003 6:26:58 AM PST by Redbob (this space reserved for witty remarks)
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To: Redbob
Big turnout in a state with 11.9 million hispanics, eh?

Probably would not have mattered, if it was 23-30 they would have been herded together for a tight shot from the media covering the "event" and called it "the large number of protesters." They would be interviewed, asked intro questions, the background would be blocked by protest signs and the surrounding thousands of Americans going about their daily business looking at them for 3 seconds, mildly curious, would be totally ignored.

TLI

91 posted on 12/15/2003 8:00:31 AM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: Happy2BMe
I got down to the first few words and decided it was a waste of time.

Ahhh, spoken like a true quitter. The originality of this next part is shattering . . .

I wish you at least one Mexican family on either side of your house, one across the street, and a new Mexican boss when you go to work today. You deserve the best.

I don't get anything except what I make for myself. Walking around believing one "deserves" this or that is one of the bigest misconceptions humans can make. I do not have such neighbors or such a boss because of the enviroment I have made for myself, not somthing I would wake up to in the morning. However, if you believe that such an environment is "best," move to mexico.

92 posted on 12/15/2003 1:52:05 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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