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Innovator hoping to tap underwater power source
Houston Chronicle ^ | December 12, 2003

Posted on 12/12/2003 1:33:36 PM PST by Dog Gone

MIAMI -- Herb Williams, a Palatka, Fla., dock builder and former Alaskan crab boat skipper, isn't the first guy you would peg for solving the world's energy problems.

But here he sat, tropical shirt standing out at a table of button-down engineers from Miami-Dade's water and sewer plant on Virginia Key, making a plan that sounds like science fiction seem plausible. Almost inevitable.

Williams' small company wants to sink a network of innovative turbines he has designed -- think of a giant fan with a hole in the center where the hub should be -- deep into the Gulf Stream off the coast of South Florida.

If it works -- still a big question -- the machines would convert the relentless flow of that undersea river into a more valuable kind of current.

Electricity.

Enough power, Williams predicts, from one turbine to keep much of the sewage plant churning or 1,000 homes humming. Enough juice from about 500 huge machines Williams envisions eventually anchored offshore to light half the state. Clean, inexhaustible and, most important, cheap power.

"We all want to clean up the environment, but we haven't come up with one thing that is cost-efficient," Williams said. "We've got something that can beat fossil fuel."

The engineers listened with interest but remained skeptical, as have big investors and utilities. After all, Williams' biggest feat to date came two years ago when a small 10-foot prototype lighted up a sign off Palm Beach County spelling out the company name, Florida Hydro.

But it did glow on pure Gulf Stream current.

And that makes Williams' work intriguing, particularly when it's coupled with growing concerns about oil shortages and recent advances by other companies developing ocean energy projects.

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In July, a British company installed the first large offshore turbine off the coast of England, a prototype intended to create power from tidal current flows. Other European and American companies are developing systems to tap tides, waves and currents.

Lots of technical challenges remain but the potential of ocean energy, considered dim for decades, has brightened.

Two years ago, Florida Power & Light told the Palm Beach Post that technology like Williams' was "nonviable." Now, an FPL spokeswoman, Pat Davis, says, "It's definitely something we are watching."

Williams also has drawn interest from the Navy. He hopes to sign a contract with the Navy's South Florida Testing Facility in Port Everglades to help construct a full-scale prototype, with blades 106 feet in diameter, for testing off the coast.

The idea of tapping ocean currents or tides has been around for decades and in principle is not much different than a dam capturing a river's energy or a windmill converting breeze into power. And as a potential source of renewable energy, the Gulf Stream is particularly attractive. It flows near shore, as close as three miles, around the clock at an average of 3 1/2 knots.

But the mechanical challenges are immense. Gear would have to endure rust, fouling from marine growth, nasty weather. Any service crews would need deep-sea dive gear. There are huge questions of cost and reliability.

"The ocean environment is incredibly harsh. Getting something to function for a long period of time is incredibly difficult," said Bill Johns, a professor of oceanography at the University of Miami's Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science. "You can make it work in a bathtub, but will it work in the ocean?"

Williams believes his turbines will work, practically and financially.

He has already earned several patents for the design, which grew out of his lifelong interest in the ocean and an innate talent for tinkering. Williams, son of a Lake Okeechobee, Fla., fisherman, said he became fascinated with ocean power 10 years ago while working for energy companies as a boat captain in Alaska, where tides rise and fall about 30 feet a day.

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But to tap that power with a traditional turbine would require a massive and heavy machine -- too expensive and inefficient. He pondered the problem for years.

"One day I was looking at this propeller and thought, `Boy, all this energy is coming from the tips.' "

His bright idea became a fan with a hole in the middle, whirring blades aligned by magnets and other mechanisms.

It worked small-scale. But will it hold up under the stress of larger blades? Will it work under tough conditions consistently enough for power grids that demand reliability?

Williams believes it can, eventually. To reduce barnacles and other growth, he plans to use mostly plastic and fiberglass with a design that will allow turbines to be easily removed for servicing. Floating about 200 feet below the surface and anchored to the sea floor, they would also be sheltered from storms above.

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Though he has yet to build a full-scale model, earlier this year Williams applied for the first federal permit for what he envisions as seven "energy fields" stretching from Miami to Vero Beach, Fla., with an array of 500 generators. The review could take a year.

"There are just so many questions," said John Stoot, chief of the South permits branch of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. "This is an absolutely new technology."

Would the turbines harm turtles or fish? Would cables or anchors affect reefs? What about effects on ocean currents?

Williams has little worry about such impacts. The big blades are blunt, not sharp, and turn at just two revolutions a minute, he said, too slow to harm any creatures.

The more important test is to compare ocean energy to coal, oil or nuclear energy, he said.

"This is renewable, clean energy, environmentally sound stuff," he said.

And don't forget cheap. Williams claims he could produce juice for a penny a kilowatt, which he says is about half of FPL's cost.

Sounds great. If -- that question again -- it works.

So far, despite lots of talks with investors and cities, nobody has banked much on it. Williams figures he has sunk a half-million of his own and friends' money into the venture but needs about $2 million more to build the bigger prototype.

John Chorlog, an assistant director for Miami-Dade's Water and Sewer Department, said Williams would have to supply more details, along with working models and hard, verifiable results, before the county would sign on to bankroll a project or hook Florida's Virginia Key sewer plant to sunken turbines. Besides, the plant already burns one reliable renewable energy source -- methane gas produced by waste.

"Our position is we're always willing to listen but we're very conservative," he said. "It sounds very interesting but you've got to show me. We're not going to buy a pig in the poke."

Williams is used to that kind of skepticism but remains optimistic. It may take 10 or 20 years, but he's convinced sea power is in Florida's future.

"I don't have a lot of formal education as an engineer or scientist. I lose a lot of credibility on that," he said. "Another problem is the whole idea that if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. To think out of our little box is really hard."


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1 posted on 12/12/2003 1:33:36 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
This is the same thing as was done @ the end of season one of SeqQuest DSV. The theory is great, the question is how well does it work in the real world.
2 posted on 12/12/2003 1:37:46 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: Dog Gone
Well, I don't have the expertise to do the numbers, but if you took out enough power to change or weaken the Gulf Stream--which presumably you would have to do in order to get enough power to change the energy picture--the result would be massive changes in weather patterns, far larger than anything caused by so-called global warming. So how is this an environmentally friendly idea?
3 posted on 12/12/2003 1:41:10 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Dog Gone
But the mechanical challenges are immense. Gear would have to endure rust, fouling from marine growth, nasty weather. Any service crews would need deep-sea dive gear. There are huge questions of cost and reliability.

Don't forget transmission of the electricity to shore. Using my newly acquired Professional Engineer's certificate :^D, I concur and declare that the project is not viable with current technology.

4 posted on 12/12/2003 1:43:06 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Dog Gone
I go out into the Gulfstream oftentimes sport fishing. YOu would be amazed by the strength and flow of the gulfstream. You can be in one place and ten feet away is a river of water moving 6 miles an hour all several miles out in the ocean.
The flow is constant. It is always there. It is always approx. the same speed.
I think the problem though is wear and tear. Everything rots and quickly in salt water.
If you could harness the power of the gulfstream you'd really have something there though.
5 posted on 12/12/2003 1:45:00 PM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: Cicero
My guess is that the total energy in the gulf stream is on a magnitude that would power the earth several times over. A grid powering the Gulf Coast would have minimal impact on the total energy of the stream, and therefore no impact on the immediate environment.
6 posted on 12/12/2003 1:49:05 PM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: Dog Gone
think of a giant fan with a hole in the center where the hub should be -- deep into the Gulf Stream off the coast of South Florida.

And the best part is.....Free Sushi!!!

7 posted on 12/12/2003 1:51:20 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: Blood of Tyrants
What is the saying about electricity transport? Like carrying sand cross-country in a burlap sack?
8 posted on 12/12/2003 1:52:02 PM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: Dog Gone
What is wrong with everyone, on this idea, they have not gotten approval from greenpeas and world wide wildhare foundation.

blades 106 feet underwater, we know that tiny little fish and whales will be endangered by this idea. then we will have kennedy wondering if these will ruin his view from his palm beach sex stop.

9 posted on 12/12/2003 1:53:26 PM PST by q_an_a
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To: Cicero
but if you took out enough power to change or weaken the Gulf Stream--which presumably you would have to do in order to get enough power to change the energy picture.

Please don't presume that...

It makes NO sense to presume that. It's like saying extracting solar power would cause Global Cooling. Or wind farms would disrupt wind patterns. It doesn't work that way...

Damming a river "disrupts" it's normal patterns, but you could get all the energy the world needs from the ocean without disrupting it's patterns.

10 posted on 12/12/2003 1:55:38 PM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: Dog Gone
If we can't make better use of the oceans, then we might as well just drain them.
11 posted on 12/12/2003 1:56:51 PM PST by Consort
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To: Dog Gone
He'll cause an Ice Age in Europe with that fooling around.

A plus all-in-all compared to the current Global Warming batch session.

12 posted on 12/12/2003 1:58:42 PM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: Mr. Bird
Room temperature superconductors are on the wish list for power companies. If a conductor had zero losses due to the natural resistance of the material, huge transformers and high voltage transmission lines would be a thing of the past.
13 posted on 12/12/2003 2:08:51 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: RightWhale
actually, with the north pole ice melting away for the last 20 years, if it all melts the gulf stream might go away. Otherwise, I do not think it is possible to stop it.
14 posted on 12/12/2003 2:17:22 PM PST by Geritol (Lord willing, there will be a later...)
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To: Onelifetogive
One rap about windmills is that they chop up birds.

These will only chop up fish and submarines.

15 posted on 12/12/2003 2:25:56 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: biblewonk
Underwater windmill ping for you.
16 posted on 12/12/2003 2:32:12 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: farmfriend; Ernest_at_the_Beach; sourcery
ping
17 posted on 12/12/2003 2:32:26 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The gulf stream is only a few miles offshore in Florida.

Several companies make suitable cable to bring the power back to shore. Here is some info I stole from www.kerite.com:

 

POWER CABLE
138kV SHIELDED (SPS) 90°C RATING

CONDUCTOR
- Class B Copper Strand (Aluminum Conductors Available)
CONDUCTOR SHIELD - Unique Permashield® System
INSULATION - Exclusive Corona-Immune EPR Insulation
INSULATION SHIELD - Thermosetting Semiconduction Layer
METALLIC SHIELD - 5mil Copper Tape, 20% Overlap
JACKET - PVC (PE Available)


138kV SINGLE CONDUCTOR

  CATALOG NUMBER SUFFIX  
14400
850 Mils Insulation
CATALOG Size No. O.D.
Over
Jacket Cable
NO. (AWG/ of Insul. Thickness O.D. Weight
PREFIX kcmil) Str. (Inches) (Mils) (Inches) (Lbs./Kft)
 
150C98- 500 37 2.58 140 3.03 5.42
175C98- 750 61 2.77 140 3.22 6.58
190C98- 1000 61 2.92 140 3.37 7.65
192C98- 1250 91 3.08 140 3.53 8.74
195C98- 1500 91 3.20 140 3.65 9.75
197C98- 1750 127 3.31 140 3.76 10.75
199C98- 2000 127 3.42 140 3.86 11.72
Metallic shielding may be customized to meet system requirements.

THIRTY MINUTE AC FINAL TEST VOLTAGE

AC (kV)

130


CATALOG NUMBER EXAMPLE: 150C98-14400 = 500 kcmil (37) CU, 115kV, SPS 850 mil, Insulation, Extruded Semicon, 5 mil CU Tape, 110 mil PVC Jacket.

18 posted on 12/12/2003 2:42:22 PM PST by e_engineer
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To: e_engineer
What's the purpose of the copper tape?
19 posted on 12/12/2003 2:52:29 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone; biblewonk
Underwater windmill ping for you.

Mmmmmmm... manatee 'burgers.... yummy!

Windmills Take Toll on Wildlife

20 posted on 12/12/2003 2:52:48 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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