Social Predation 101: Now showing in classrooms near you

Sierra Times ^ | 12-11-03 | Andy Donnach

[HankReardon]

President Bush flew over here in a helicopter a few months back. A 17 year old I know said a high school teacher of his told the class when he flew over he went out and gave the President the "one finger salute". He told me he hates Bush and often spewls his rhetoric to his class. This a government school (propaganda mill). Anyone see the "MISLEADER" commercials? The one that really gets me is the one that states the $87.5 billion that goes to help turn Iraq and Afghanistan into sane nations could have gone for 2,000,000 more teachers ( hate spewling government union working socialists) or 200 more government schools (socialist propaganda mills). Over $700 billion a year is spent by the federal government alone on education. When is enough enough?

[Tax-chick]

ping for later

[tom h]

Tell the student to make an audiotape of the teacher (secretly) and then send it to Fox News or Rush Limbaugh or NewsMax with the school and teacher's name identified. The teacher will be shamed, will cower and make excuses, and his opinions will not stand the light of day. Also send the audiotape to the local newspaper. We must OUT these jerks.

[marktwain]

Excellent reply. You can get digital recorders the size of a cigar that record 120 minutes for about $50.

I call mine the secondary self defense tool.

[headsonpikes]

Luckily, most of these NEA swine lack the courage to be predators.

They're satisfied with being merely parasitic.

[reed_inthe_wind]

What do you people expect. By putting the government in charge of schools you allow it to interpet history, economics, philosophy, morals, values, culture, literature and art. Is this freedom? Why isn't every person who ever raised a child demanding school vouchers?

[Tax-chick]

Why isn't every person who ever raised a child demanding school vouchers?

Because receiving public funds would subject our home schools to government control :-). We'd rather lose some money and keep our freedom.

[reed_inthe_wind]

That is an apparent good for you. But your children will live in a country where many will be indoctrinated. How free will they be, if the majority of its citizins are pawns?

Can your fears by addressed in another way: could not the law allow a private school category where it is required that the school and parents enter into a contract to forbid voucher aid to the parents. In return, the school is categorically exempt from any government interference - (of course, at this stage this presumed government interference of the private school is a concern but not a foregone reality.)

[Vic3O3]

Yet another reason to homeschool!

[yoe]

Why that high School teacher wasn’t called on the carpet boggles the mind, unless he did his “one finger salute” at home and not on school grounds...never-the-less this dunce is what has become the epitome of American High School teachers and the destruction of honor and integrity for your country. I assume this same teacher gave a ‘thumbs up’ for Bill Clinton, a perjurer, rapist and traitorous president. The NEA isn’t about the betterment of schools, teaching, or heaven forbid, a truly good education, it is about more $$’s for the teachers. Probably one of the most destructive groups in America today. I do not mean to tar and feather all teachers, but if the shoe fits wear it! Teachers should clean up their own and put America first, not their unions!

[Tax-chick]

could not the law allow a private school category where it is required that the school and parents enter into a contract to forbid voucher aid to the parents. In return, the school is categorically exempt from any government interference

You're suggesting that the government would allow itself to be bound by a non-interference contract? Sorry, we know better. You don't get within a stone's throw of government money without government control; ask Hillsdale College.

I can't control what other parents do, or how their children turn out. It appears that a majority will put up with anything as long as they have somewhere to leave their kids all day. Without a major change of heart on the part of millions, we'll just have a growing number of bread-and-circuses zombies.

How free will any of us be? As free as owning land and guns can make us. Everyone has to die sometime, if it comes to that.

[Porterville]

This is the Liberal elite's hero... basically his strategy is to infiltrate and destroy the foundation of the Republic from within. They focus on the idea of hegemony... and apply it in a micro-sociological manner in American institutions... primarily education... most of the foot soldiers aren't even aware that the liberal elites plan social experiments and implement them using ignorant bleeding-hearts.

From Liberal Utopia Gramschi "Along with Mao, he was one of a handful of early 20th century communists who fully appreciated the central importance of cultural revolution in the struggle for socialism. His insights on the importance of cultural, intellectual as well as political autonomy for working class liberation helped lay the intellectual foundations for the rebirth of revolutionary anti-capitalist working class struggle in Italy in the 60's and 70's. The "Autonomist" New Left in Italy, France and Germany as well as the US New Left with their distinctive emphases on counterculture were all Gramsci's intellectual children. Gramsci is a central part of who we are as revolutionaries in the US and Europe are today."

"The proletarian revolution cannot but be a total revolution. It consists in the foundation of new modes of labor, new modes of production and distribution that are peculiar to the working class in its historical determination in the course of the capitalist process. This revolution also presupposes the formation of a new set of standards, a new psychology, new ways of feeling, thinking and living that must be specific to the working class, that must be created by it, that will become 'dominant' when the working class becomes the dominant class. The proletarian revolution is essentially the liberation of the productive forces already existing within bourgeois society. These forces can be identified in the economic and political fields; but is it possible to start identifying the latent elements that will lead to the creation of a proletarian civilization or culture? Do elements for an art, philosophy and morality (standards) specific to the working class already exist? The question must be raised and it must be answered. Together with the problem of gaining political and economic power, the proletariat must also face the problem of winning intellectual power. Just as it has thought to organize itself politically and economically, it must also think about organizing itself culturally..."

[ladylib]

It's in preschools too:

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0403/jjacobs042503.asp

Honestly, after yesterday's court case condoning the teaching if Islam in California public schools and now this, I don't know why parents don't get off their butts and pull their kids out. Well, I really know why: they need to dump their kids someplace and it's "free."

[upchuck]

In my ex-neighborhood there were two young girls, 6 and 8, who used to like to come over and play with my dog in the backyard. We would discuss various things as they played with the dog. An instructive exercise: to learn how 6 and 8 year old think.

One afternoon I was kidding them about, "What did you learn in school today?" After remarking that I sounded like their mother, they proceeded to tell me about spelling words learned and math problems solved. Then, the 8 yo said, "I just wish President Bush would stop killing all those people."

Shocked, I asked where she learned that. She said, "That's what our teacher taught us."

I asked, "Your teacher said President Bush is killing people?"

"Yes."

"And where are these people dying?"

"In Iraq."

"Your teacher said President Bush is killing people in Iraq?"

She said, "Yes. And my teacher said it was lots and lots of people."

I said, "Maybe your teacher made that up."

She said, "She'd never do that, she's my TEACHER!" (Lord, help us!)

I directed the conversation on to something else. Later I mentioned this to their mother. She was horrified and promised to take this up with the school principle. Unfortunately, I moved shortly thereafter and never learned what happened.

This is scary stuff folks!

[Tax-chick]

Thanks for the link - it reminded me that I lost my Education Intelligence Agency newsletter when I changed e-mail addresses; now I'm back on!

[Tax-chick]

One of the things we teach our children (suggested by John Taylor Gatto!) is, "You can't believe everything adults tell you, including us." Adults could be (1) lying, (2) honestly wrong, or (3) making a joke. We give examples: Remember when Uncle Ernie told you he went to college and played on the golf team with Sir Thomas More? (My son later produced a picture of St. Thomas for Sunday School, with golf clubs!)

All education is "indoctrination" to an extent - the student is being taught the beliefs of the teacher. An honest teacher will be open about it: "This is what I believe; others believe differently." A well-educated person will have the tools to evaluate what he's taught, including research skills, reading and comprehension ability, and LOGICAL (not "critical") thinking.

[irgbar-man]

Bump for later read.

[Graymatter]

>>...why parents don't get off their butts and pull their kids out....they need to dump their kids someplace and it's "free."

I would say that's often true, though many parents must work and have no choice in the matter.
There's no private school in my little town (except for fundamentalist Muslims). In my child's grade level, the public school teaches history for about ten minutes out of a year, no I'm not exaggerating, I asked. I'd go without a lot of luxuries to cover that educational shortcoming, and I do. But many parents can't do that, or are too young or unimaginative to realize they can and should.