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White House verifies immigration review
The Washington Times ^ | December 12, 2003 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 12/12/2003 12:05:21 AM PST by yonif

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:40:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The White House yesterday said a new immigration review is under way that could lead to amnesty for millions of illegal aliens living and working in the United States.

Confirmation of the review came during a White House briefing, just two days after Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said during a town hall meeting in Miami that the government had to "afford some kind of legal status" to the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens in the country.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; jerryseper; republicanturncoats; tomridge; whitehouse
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To: OldFriend
It's a matter of turning up the heat. Once you do so, many, if not most, will leave voluntarily.

Here is a simple six-step plan for significantly improving the situation:

  1. Put additional agents on the border, possibly initially assisted by National Guard
  2. Fence additional areas of the border
  3. Begin an agressive policy of prosecuting scofflaw employers (start with landscaping and cleaning companies)
  4. Require local law enforcement to cooperate with DHS and turn over illegals that they encounter
  5. Forbid illegals from obtaining benefits at the federal and state levels (pass legislation overturning Plyler v. Doe, if possible)
  6. Create a bracero-type program, but require applicants to apply at a U.S. Embassy in their home country
I think this is doable, but I suspect it won't be done because Congress, the President, Karl Rove, and the "business community" don't want it to be done.

It's a shameful situation, and the implication that Latinos favor illegal immigration, and therefore one can pander in this way for their votes is insulting, to say the least.

121 posted on 12/12/2003 6:56:13 AM PST by B Knotts (Go 'Nucks!)
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To: OldFriend
So you think we can round up two million people and deport them. Care to tell me how we would actually accomplish this.......Police raids, lawyers to be sure the folks rounded up are illegal, detention centers, transportation to another country.

Do you think the US can bring to justice every terrorist of the world? No. The US will never stop all terrorism, but it doesn't mean it leaves principle and lets it flourish.

122 posted on 12/12/2003 6:59:09 AM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Spiff
"I haven't met a single "hispanic" who would be more likely to vote for Bush if he pushed through an amnesty."

You would think that the ones who went through the process to come here legally would be upset with others being allowed a easy ride.
123 posted on 12/12/2003 6:59:39 AM PST by honeygrl (FreeRepublic.com "The Crack Cocaine of Conservative News Discussion")
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To: Dane
Offer above ground status, then those who do not take it can be deported.>>>>>

We've ALREADY tried that idea.

HOW MANY *new deadlines* have been added to the 245(i) AMNESTY already ??? Whereby the illegals could pay a fine, be checked, prove employment, and then become legal.

Seems like only a few thousand WANTED to become legal, & then our gov't would *create* ANOTHER new deadline. Bush also attempted to *add ANOTHER new deadline* to the 245(1) AMNESTY only six months after 9-11.

124 posted on 12/12/2003 7:00:00 AM PST by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: AmericanInTokyo
What in hade's name are these people doing here, and cannot the White House officials see beyond their gated communities and walls and secret service protection what the rest of us are having to put up with!?


116 posted on 12/12/2003 6:46:52 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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Nope! The ONLY time you are important to them is when you vote. Other than that, you are a obsticle to them.

I am leaning on voting for this time forward on a divided government. It seems that that is the ONLY time there is anyone that slows the pace of the freefall this country seems to be on.

Example: Hillary Care, the Republicans stopped it dead when Clintler was President. Now they fawned all over it because Jorge Delano Bush pushed it.


125 posted on 12/12/2003 7:00:12 AM PST by Area51
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To: Constitution Day
Just check out Dane's and Mo1's posts for your answer.
126 posted on 12/12/2003 7:00:59 AM PST by honeygrl (FreeRepublic.com "The Crack Cocaine of Conservative News Discussion")
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To: B Knotts; OldFriend
I forgot to mention the most important step that is not currently being done in any meaningful way:

7. Actually deport illegals when they are caught; don't just give them a "deportation order"

127 posted on 12/12/2003 7:01:21 AM PST by B Knotts (Go 'Nucks!)
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To: Sabertooth
I honestly don't think that if a Dem had been in office the last 3 years they could have gotten away with as much lireal engineering as Bush has. VERY disappointing.
128 posted on 12/12/2003 7:02:33 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: honeygrl
Many are. I think the whole "we want to appeal to Latino voters" is a head-fake. They are really trying to appeal to the bidnessmen who employ the illegals.
129 posted on 12/12/2003 7:02:35 AM PST by B Knotts (Go 'Nucks!)
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To: yonif
I suggest it is TIME to FREEP the WHITE HOUSE.....
President Bush MUST hear from us on this one!!!!!!!
130 posted on 12/12/2003 7:04:05 AM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: yonif
"The White House yesterday said a new immigration review is under way that could lead to amnesty for millions of illegal aliens living and working in the United States."

Once again, the Prostitutes in Congress and the White House are IGNORING the wishes and welfare of the American public to satify: a) big corporate interests ( Republicans); and a lust for more votes (Democrats).

Bush should be ashamed of himself. This move should generate a torrent of outraged letters, cablegrams, and e-mails. Millions of angry American citizens should converge on Washington to DEMAND that THEIR wishes be met by our elected prostitutes. Bonfire vigils should be held in every village, city and town.

But that won't happen. It won't happen because Americans have become dumb, submissive sheep. They have been bred and educated to believe that mommy government knows best and that issues like this should be left to the "experts".
As long as they have their jobs, television, the Internet, movies, the World Series and the Superbowl, they are happy.

The Republic is dead.


131 posted on 12/12/2003 7:04:46 AM PST by ZULU (Remember the Alamo)
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To: honeygrl
Believe me, I have been reading.
132 posted on 12/12/2003 7:05:44 AM PST by Constitution Day (Thomas: "Apparently, the marketplace of ideas is to be fully open only to defamers, nude dancers...")
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To: over3Owithabrain
post 128 - make that liberal enginerring. Sorry for the typo, coffee hasn't kicked in yet!
133 posted on 12/12/2003 7:07:25 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Area51
Well, the 'word' is certainly out, isn't it. They might as well take out ads in the border city papers in Mexico to announced 'the coast is clear."

From "La Opinion", just yesterday:

Title: "Tom Ridge pide legalizar a los indocumentados El secretario de Seguridad Interior reconoce que no son terroristas...by María Luisa Arredondo, La Opinión.... Jueves, 11 de diciembre de 2003.... Con unas palabras que, además de sorpresa, suscitaron optimismo entre los proponentes de una reforma migratoria en Estados Unidos, el secretario de Seguridad Interna, Tom Ridge, reconoció que los inmigrantes indocumentados no constituyen una amenaza para este país y, por lo tanto, se les debe dar algún tipo de “estatus legal”. Los comentarios de Ridge surgieron durante una reunión comunitaria que tuvo lugar el martes pasado en la Universidad de Miami Dade en respuesta a la pregunta de un participante sobre una posible amnistía para los indocumentados. ..... Aunque Ridge subrayó que cualquier cambio en la legislación migratoria debe ser aprobado antes por el Congreso, dijo que ha llegado el momento de que la nación aborde el problema de la inmigración indocumentada."

134 posted on 12/12/2003 7:07:45 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: HennepinPrisoner
I won't sit it out....if Wesley Clark or Howard Dean takes a harsher stance on immigration than Jorge Bush, a Democrat will get my vote in 2004.

Sometimes people who have the vote can be more dangerous than people who don't.

135 posted on 12/12/2003 7:07:57 AM PST by Consort
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To: FSPress; Dane
Dane only seems to want the law enforced (at any cost) when it comes to the drug war. He doesn't mind our rights being trampled on to catch a few drug dealers and apparently doesn't mind our country being trampled on by illegal aliens. Maybe he just wants to see our country fall.
136 posted on 12/12/2003 7:08:59 AM PST by honeygrl (FreeRepublic.com "The Crack Cocaine of Conservative News Discussion")
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To: Constitution Day
Yippee - another issue taken away from the Dems. Woo-hoo!! Go W!! Coming up next: reparations to blacks
137 posted on 12/12/2003 7:09:11 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: pollywog
FREEP THE WHITE HOUSE. BIG TIME. If not in person, certainly with mails and calls.

This is an ethical and credibility issue for FR, bar none, IMHO.

We have to "police" our own, on this one.

When does the group meet in Lafayette Park?

138 posted on 12/12/2003 7:09:27 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
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To: B Knotts
Your dead wrong I am afraid. Jorge Delano Bush's nephew is half Latino. Meet George P. Bush. The family's next Presidential hopeful.

Now you see the real reason for all the talk of amnesty for the Criminal invaders?

139 posted on 12/12/2003 7:09:41 AM PST by Area51
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
This will be another conservatives/republicans shut up and listen to us we are the republican elite we shall tell you what you want - no matter that 90% of you disagreee with this policy. RINOs and the Republican elites are the bottom of the barrel. If Bush pushes this through I will definitely not vote for him in 2004 - this is it I am sick and tired of his compasionate conservatism - lets see if he thinks moderates and democrates will vote for him after this stunt.
140 posted on 12/12/2003 7:10:58 AM PST by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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