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White House verifies immigration review
The Washington Times ^
| December 12, 2003
| Jerry Seper
Posted on 12/12/2003 12:05:21 AM PST by yonif
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:40:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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The White House yesterday said a new immigration review is under way that could lead to amnesty for millions of illegal aliens living and working in the United States.
Confirmation of the review came during a White House briefing, just two days after Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said during a town hall meeting in Miami that the government had to "afford some kind of legal status" to the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens in the country.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; jerryseper; republicanturncoats; tomridge; whitehouse
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To: AmericanInTokyo
So you think we can round up two million people and deport them. Care to tell me how we would actually accomplish this.......Police raids, lawyers to be sure the folks rounded up are illegal, detention centers, transportation to another country.
101
posted on
12/12/2003 6:32:06 AM PST
by
OldFriend
(DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
To: Sabertooth
If he does an amnesty, I am not voting for him. I now consider such an act treasonous, especially given the results of the last one.
102
posted on
12/12/2003 6:34:22 AM PST
by
B Knotts
(Go 'Nucks!)
To: primeval patriot; Mo1
there is no way that we will be able to round everyone of them up and throw them out.Let's start small, throw out 25% and go from there.
That's easy. Go to every shopping center parking lot in the Phoenix metro area and round up the guys looking for day jobs. Collect their families on the way out, and then ship 'em to the US Military base in Honduras.
103
posted on
12/12/2003 6:35:14 AM PST
by
HiJinx
(Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's Grace. Come home when the job's done. We'll be here.)
To: Dane
It's easy to be a keyboard commando isn't it. I would like to here your logistics in carrying out such a plan.
Right - we can figure out the logistics to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, and can organize logistics to support millions of flood victims, build skyscrapers, send men to the moon, etc, but can't find a few million people without any legal documentation? Just because YOU don't have the vision to see it's possible, doesn't make it so.
BTW I just noticed... If we rearrange the letters of your name, it spells "Dean."
104
posted on
12/12/2003 6:35:56 AM PST
by
adam_az
To: OldFriend
I believe we can incrementally start on 250,000-300,000 in target states, and we can also start in earnest on the state level with blanket denial of social services, drivers licenses, SSN cards, non-recognition of
matricula consulada tarjetas, etc. It will be a long, hard battle.
I am in it for the long run.
So, excuse me, but with your naysaying, do nothing skepticism, you can kindly LEAD, FOLLOW, OR GET OUT OF THE WAY. Thanks! :-)
105
posted on
12/12/2003 6:38:08 AM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
To: adam_az
Damn straight. Excellent argument. There is no counter argument.
106
posted on
12/12/2003 6:40:38 AM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
To: AmericanInTokyo
You're right.
I live in Phoenix. There was recently a RUNNING GUN BATTLE on the I-10 freeway (yes, a shoot-out on the freeway!) about a 20 minute drive from where I live between two groups of coyotes. Apparently one had "stolen" the other's "load."
If he Bush wants to folks like this to vote for him...
107
posted on
12/12/2003 6:42:31 AM PST
by
adam_az
To: familyofman; Dane
Apparently, Dane only dislikes drug-related criminals. He'd likely support mass deportation and closing off the borders if it were done in the name of the War on Drugs.
108
posted on
12/12/2003 6:43:04 AM PST
by
honeygrl
(FreeRepublic.com "The Crack Cocaine of Conservative News Discussion")
To: OldFriend
Having read the entire statement by Ridge, it makes sense. Anyone who believes we are going to round up a million illegal immigrants, process them, and deport them are not being realistic.
The knee jerk reaction to trying to solve the problem without careful consideration is quite disappointing.
93 posted on 12/12/2003 6:21:38 AM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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So because it would be a inconvienence, we shouldn't enforce the law?
How Clintonesque. Hell let's just have a big ole Siesta right down on the White House lawn and Jorge Delano Bush can hand out Pardons and Drivers licenses, SSI claim forms and medicare applications at the same time.
109
posted on
12/12/2003 6:43:16 AM PST
by
Area51
To: goldstategop
If Bush allows amnesty for illegals, he will never get another vote from me.
To: txdoda
TWO yrs. after 9-11 we still have OVER 300k, already ordered DEPORTED, running loose in the country.Right, that's what I was referring to, the 300,000 "scofflaws" who have already been ordered deported by the U.S. Immigration Court (many after a very lengthy appeals process).
As I said, Ashcroft held a big press conference about merging the scofflaw database into NCIC. That was two years ago.
For those who don't know it, NCIC is the database that's queried by every police department in the U.S. when they run a check on your driver's license, auto license plate, etc.
But since that memorable day two years ago, all has been silent. Not a single word about a single scofflaw being apprehended through NCIC and deported per prior court order.
In fact, I haven't seen even a single report that they actually ever did merge the scofflaw database into NCIC. I'm guessing it never happened despite the hoopla, the commitments, and promises.
111
posted on
12/12/2003 6:45:47 AM PST
by
angkor
To: Dane
"Oh BTW, we wouldn't have an immigration problem if Mexico got it's house in order. That's a tough job but one that can't be ignored since we share close to a 2,000 mile border with them."
We can't control mexico. We can control our border with them though.
112
posted on
12/12/2003 6:45:50 AM PST
by
honeygrl
(FreeRepublic.com "The Crack Cocaine of Conservative News Discussion")
To: AmericanInTokyo
They'll reelect Bush, even with this proposal, for fear of President Dean or President Hillary. I'm wondering if there is any difference. I mean, true basic difference, not just who gets to be on top of the heap when America is finally subborned by socialism.
113
posted on
12/12/2003 6:46:38 AM PST
by
William Terrell
(Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
To: FairOpinion
Even if they do something about the illegals -- but they need to do it in the REVERSE order. SEAL the borders FIRST. Then decide what to do with those who are already here. Exactly right.
To: OldFriend
So you think we can round up two million people and deport them. Yes, it's been done before. Eisenhower did it in the 1950's Maybe we could designate illegals as potential terrorists and use the Patriot Act?
115
posted on
12/12/2003 6:46:46 AM PST
by
Bolivar
To: adam_az
A few months ago, I spotted, while stateside, a latino gentleman actually sitting with the car door open, facing outward, loading a revolver with ammunition, in broad daylight, in the parking lot of a Catholic Church on Sunday. We called it in of course to 9-11, and the police arrived. We read in the 'tip sheet' later that the guy was an illegal alien from Guatemala.
What in hade's name are these people doing here, and cannot the White House officials see beyond their gated communities and walls and secret service protection what the rest of us are having to put up with!?
116
posted on
12/12/2003 6:46:52 AM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
To: Bolivar
BINGO.
Patriot Act. Violators of Federal Immigration Law. Transgressors against US border integrity. RICO laws as well.
If that does not sound like a violation of the Patriot Act, I don't know what does.
Of course, 2004 electoral politics and pandering by the gated community-crowd ("Hey, I'm OK and safe, screw you") crowd will supercede that of course.
117
posted on
12/12/2003 6:49:39 AM PST
by
AmericanInTokyo
(NORTH KOREA is a DANGEROUS CANCER in late stages; we still only meditate and take herbal medicines)
To: yonif
NO! If President Bush proposes an amnesty for illegal aliens, I'm sitting out the election I wrote the White House yesterday..a lot of good it will do. And I wrote my Senators.
If Bush puts political aspirations above the good of the country (this is political), I am going to retract my "cut off your nose to spite your face" opinion, and sit it out myself. We are too far gone.
118
posted on
12/12/2003 6:52:28 AM PST
by
Indie
(WE'VE BEEN BUSH WHACKED.)
To: angkor
See, now that is what happens when you peek behind the curtain.
Stick with the koolaid and you'll be fine. Just ask the Bushbots.
119
posted on
12/12/2003 6:54:08 AM PST
by
Area51
To: yonif
"We've taken steps to improve border security -- significant steps, I might add; have made great progress there. We've taken steps to improve the immigration infrastructure," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan. "Those are some foundations for moving forward on a more orderly, safe and humane migration policy.If that's true, how is it that we have 8-12 million illegals in this country? Under who's watch did they sneak in? Shouldn't someone have to explain why they are here in the first place? IMHO, an amnesty for illegals will be the ruination of GW's chances at a second term.....
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