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It has nothing to do with not wanting to engage it.

Then cowboy up and engage the question, Jeff.

Enemy collborators were arrested based on the information West obtained...there's is no speculation in that.

Actually, there is plenty of speculation. We haven't heard squat about these people who were arrested. For all we know, they were turned loose after the charges were found to be BS.

Attacks stopped in the area...there's no speculation in that.

Thank you for demonstrating the ergo hoc, propter hoc fallacy. Chronology != causality.

The fact that the collaborators were arrested and attacks ceased lends very strong credence to the LTC's story, which was surtely all considered in the article 32.

Either that, or West's opponents were smarter than West.

Jeff, having seen how you think, I can tell you two thing: A guerrilla leader with any sense of duplicity would play you like Itzhak Pearlman playing a Stradivarius. After a few months of your "leadership," you'll be wondering why everyone in the whole damn town wants you dead.

Just where else do you want to go with it Pooh?

Answer my question, Jeff. What's next?

As to what happens when the guy doesn't talk after West's firing the gun...since West has indicated that he had no intention of hurting the man...it proabbly ends there.

OK. Suppose, next time, it does end there, and the prisoner doesn't talk.

Later, there is an ambush, and American troops are killed.

Will we hear ol' Jeff Head complaining that the prisoner should've been "coerced" more, say with a kneecapping? And, when a kneecapping doesn't produce results, what next?

But information was given and it did pan out, so that's where in fact it ended.

One more time: the information led to arrests. Whether said arrests were of real, no-foolin' militants is another question which has not been answered.

So, your case is as speculative as mine is.

With that...what next? When does it get turned off? Does it ever get turned off? Will Jeff Head ever engage the question, or will he continue to retreat into mind-numbing sophistry?

There is no mind numbing sophistry, except perhaps to you. (If so, and if there are others...I apologize)

I answered your question. What if? Answer...it ends there according to West's own statements that he had no intention of harming the prisoner.

You didn't like the answer. You apparently want me to answer it as you judge my "way of thinking"...which I believe is just Bravo Sierra bating which I will not engage in.

Nothing spophisticated about that.

I have stated my opinon on the matter ad infinitum on these threads for all to see...I have also indicated that I am glad for this outcome, even if it is not what I consider to be the best.

Apparently you are not. You'll have to come to grips with that yourself. In the mean time, I am going to focuson welcoming this gfine soldier home from conbat.

The serial bully:

is a convincing, practised liar and when called to account, will make up anything spontaneously to fit their needs at that moment

has a Jekyll and Hyde nature - is vile, vicious and vindictive in private, but innocent and charming in front of witnesses; no-one can (or wants to) believe this individual has a vindictive nature - only the current target of the serial bully's aggression sees both sides; whilst the Jekyll side is described as "charming" and convincing enough to deceive personnel, management and a tribunal, the Hyde side is frequently described as "evil"; Hyde is the real person, Jekyll is an act

excels at deception and should never be underestimated in their capacity to deceive

uses excessive charm and is always plausible and convincing when peers, superiors or others are present (charm can be used to deceive as well as to cover for lack of empathy)

is glib, shallow and superficial with plenty of fine words and lots of form - but there's no substance

is possessed of an exceptional verbal facility and will outmanoeuvre most people in verbal interaction, especially at times of conflict

is often described as smooth, slippery, slimy, ingratiating, fawning, toadying, obsequious, sycophantic

relies on mimicry, repetition and regurgitation to convince others that he or she is both a "normal" human being and a tough dynamic manager, as in extolling the virtues of the latest management fads and pouring forth the accompanying jargon

is unusually skilled in being able to anticipate what people want to hear and then saying it plausibly

cannot be trusted or relied upon

fails to fulfil commitments

is emotionally retarded with an arrested level of emotional development; whilst language and intellect may appear to be that of an adult, the bully displays the emotional age of a five-year-old

is emotionally immature and emotionally untrustworthy

exhibits unusual and inappropriate attitudes to sexual matters, sexual behaviour and bodily functions; underneath the charming exterior there are often suspicions or hints of sex discrimination and sexual harassment, perhaps also sexual dysfunction, sexual inadequacy, sexual violence or sexual abuse

in a relationship, is incapable of initiating or sustaining intimacy

holds deep prejudices (eg against the opposite gender, people of a different sexual orientation, other cultures and religious beliefs, foreigners, etc - prejudiced people are unvaryingly unimaginative) but goes to great lengths to keep this prejudicial aspect of their personality secret

is self-opinionated and displays arrogance, audacity, a superior sense of entitlement and sense of invulnerability and untouchability

has a deep-seated contempt of clients in contrast to his or her professed compassion

is a control freak and has a compulsive need to control everyone and everything you say, do, think and believe; for example, will launch an immediate personal attack attempting to restrict what you are permitted to say if you start talking knowledgeably about psychopathic personality or antisocial personality disorder in their presence - but aggressively maintains the right to talk (usually unknowledgeably) about anything they choose; serial bullies despise anyone who enables others to see through their deception and their mask of sanity

displays a compulsive need to criticise whilst simultaneously refusing to value, praise and acknowledge others, their achievements, or their existence

shows a lack of joined-up thinking with conversation that doesn't flow and arguments that don't hold water

flits from topic to topic so that you come away feeling you've never had a proper conversation

refuses to be specific and never gives a straight answer

is evasive and has a Houdini-like ability to escape accountability

undermines and destroys anyone who the bully perceives to be an adversary, a potential threat, or who can see through the bully's mask

is adept at creating conflict between those who would otherwise collate incriminating information about them
is quick to discredit and neutralise anyone who can talk knowledgeably about antisocial or sociopathic behaviours

may pursue a vindictive vendetta against anyone who dares to held them accountable, perhaps using others' resources and contemptuous of the damage caused to other people and organisations in pursuance of the vendetta

is also quick to belittle, undermine, denigrate and discredit anyone who calls, attempts to call, or might call the bully to account

is highly manipulative, especially of people's perceptions and emotions (eg guilt)

poisons peoples' minds by manipulating their perceptions

when called upon to share or address the needs and concerns of others, responds with impatience, irritability and aggression

is arrogant, haughty, high-handed, and a know-all

often has an overwhelming, unhealthy and narcissistic attention-seeking need to portray themselves as a wonderful, kind, caring and compassionate person, in contrast to their behaviour and treatment of others; the bully sees nothing wrong with their behaviour and chooses to remain oblivious to the discrepancy between how they like to be seen and how they are seen by others

is mean-spirited, officious, and often unbelievably petty

is mean, stingy, and financially untrustworthy

is greedy, selfish, a parasite and an emotional vampire

is always a taker and never a giver

is convinced of their superiority and has an overbearing belief in their qualities of leadership but cannot distinguish between leadership (maturity, decisiveness, assertiveness, co-operation, trust, integrity) and bullying (immaturity, impulsiveness, aggression, manipulation, distrust, deceitfulness)

often fraudulently claims qualifications, experience, titles, entitlements or affiliations which are ambiguous, misleading, or bogus

often misses the semantic meaning of language, misinterprets what is said, sometimes wrongly thinking that comments of a satirical, ironic or general negative nature apply to him or herself

knows the words but not the song

is constantly imposing on others a false reality made up of distortion and fabrication

sometimes displays a seemingly limitless demonic energy especially when engaged in attention-seeking activities or evasion of accountability and is often a committeeaholic or apparent workaholic

Responsibility

The serial bully appears to lack insight into his or her behaviour and seems to be oblivious to the crassness and inappropriateness thereof; however, it is more likely that the bully knows what they are doing but elects to switch off the moral and ethical considerations by which normal people are bound. If the bully knows what they are doing, they are responsible for their behaviour and thus liable for its consequences to other people. If the bully doesn't know what they are doing, they should be suspended from duty on the grounds of diminished responsibility and the provisions of the Mental Health Act should apply.

With that...what next? When does it get turned off? Does it ever get turned off? Will Jeff Head ever engage the question, or will he continue to retreat into mind-numbing sophistry?

What happens when LTC West is replaced with another officer who holds back from the most effective methods he can imagine and some of his men come home in rubber bags while Iraqi teenagers dance at the sites where they're ambushed?

Will Pohbah accept his responsibility in creating the conditions that help make those deaths happen? Nah, he'll blame someone else....

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