IUPUI Professor Florence Roisman responds to my Christmas Card

email | Dec.6/03 | Florence Roisman

[kanawa]

She was considerate enough to sit down 2 days before I sent the Christmas card and respond.

[kanawa]

ping

[tet68]

Just like a liberal, takes 1500 words to tell you to F*** off.

[Texas_Jarhead]

you got that right!

"I believe that such a display is of doubtful constitutionality in a state-supported law school"

seems our future lawyers are in good hands

[Inyokern]

...conveys to those of us who subscribe to other religions or philosophies that we are less welcome, less valued, not fully part of the community....I am particularly concerned about such a message of exclusionbecause this is a time of heightened religious and cultural intolerance....reconciliation of different opinions about how to achieve both inclusiveness

At least you have to give her credit for knowing how to cram in every liberal cliche in the book.

[Paul Atreides]

What a loon!

[Texas_Jarhead]

"I am particularly concerned about such a message of exclusion because this is a time of heightened religious and cultural intolerance."

This @#^%$ has a lot of nerve invoking "cultural intolerance" after she (and others) had a Christmas tree removed. Typical liberal hypocrisy

[tet68]

As to the display that replaced the original tree, I think the question is whether the two trees and sleigh connote the religious holiday of Christmas. I believe that they do, though I know that others disagree. With respect to both the original display and the replacement, people disagree about (1) whether the display denotes Christmas; (2) whether Christmas is a religious holiday; and (3) whether a display that denotes a religious holiday of one religion should be placed in the law school's atrium.


And they give Rumsfeld a hard time?

[CurlyBill]

Freedom of discussion is one of the greatest glories of the United States, and it can be devoted to no more important task than reconciliation of different opinions about how to achieve both inclusiveness and freedom of belief.

Does this "inclusiveness and freedom of belief" have any room for Christianity Roisman? I suppose not in your world.

[Paul Atreides]

I'd like for her to tell me what is so intolerant about this time of year. In her worldview, a holiday centered around Christianity is intolerant? Her hatred is showing.

[Looking4Truth]

You just made me realize that Ramadan hasn't been changed to 'Holiday Season' but Christmas has. God help us.

[Alouette]

the official display of a symbol of one religion conveys to those of us who subscribe to other religions or philosophies that we are less welcome, less valued, not fully part of the community; that we are allowed to be present by sufferance only. I certainly do not believe that the Christmas tree was erected with the intention of sending that message, and I understand that some non-Christians did not take that message from the display of the tree. But the Christmas tree conveyed that message to me

IT'S ALL ABOUT ME, ME, ME!

[VeniVidiVici]

When are these people going to realize that their supposed "tolerance" is intolerance?

These people are the height of hypocracy and intolerance.

[kanawa]

"I am particularly concerned about such a message of exclusion"

Amazing, considering Christ's message was one of inclusive love.

[tet68]

. I certainly do not believe that the Christmas tree was erected with the intention of sending that message, and I understand that some non-Christians did not take that message from the display of the tree. But the Christmas tree conveyed that message to me

I's say she was conflicted, her statement indicates that reason told her that there was no intention to feel disinfranchised/etc but her liberal feelings could not allow any instance that might offend ANY ONE.

She even admits that some non-christians didn't take that message from the display but somewhere, some how, someone might so she had to act.

Pathetic.

the Christmas tree conveyed that message to me
People have been confined for less, what else has been talkin to her???

[LiteKeeper]

I like Dennis Pragers response to her today. In essence, she is suffering from a bad case of narcissism. If she is offended, too bad...get over it. Christmas is a national holiday, a vast majority of the American people celebrate it, and if she doesn't like it...tough! Why should most of us restrict our celebration because of a very small, vocal minority who don't like it.

BTW - Prager began his discussion by saying very clearly that he is not a Christian, but a practising Jew...and Christmas trees don't bother him a bit.

It is time for the majority to stand up and be counted...to refuse to cowtow to those who are too narcissistic to care about anyone but themselves!

[Teacher317]

The new-and-inoffensive display

[Teacher317]

She did not go after the 65 pound choloate Santa that is being raffled off... even though Santa has about as much to do with celebrations of the birth of Christ as evergreen trees do.

[tet68]

Inoffensive? Are you kidding? There are poinsettias in there!

[Teacher317]

As to the display that replaced the original tree, I think the question is whether the two trees and sleigh connote the religious holiday of Christmas. I believe that they do, though I know that others disagree. With respect to both the original display and the replacement, people disagree about (1) whether the display denotes Christmas; (2) whether Christmas is a religious holiday; and (3) whether a display that denotes a religious holiday of one religion should be placed in the law school's atrium.

Whoops! Apparently it IS still offensive!