This conversation is on fire! Frank just said Grover has called him a racist and a biggot for Frank's expressed concerns about the arab-muslim groups Grover is associated with.
CAIR, American Muslim Assoc., I don't care if they are linked to terrorist or not, I hear what they say on T.V., I see their refusal to criticize Islamo-fascists, they are dirt as far as I am concerned. No self respecting American, nevertheless conservative, should be found in company of such groups.
Thanks for doing this thread. I won't be able to stay, but will be back later.
A little additional info on our "good friends" at CAIR
Media Alert--For Immediate Release - March 2, 1999
National Muslim Organizations Incite Modern Day Lynch Mob
CAIR’s false allegations create hysteria amongst American Muslims. Death threats, harassment and acts of discrimination ensue
"One of the most duplicitous and effective tactics to destroy a person, which is common in the Washington political jungle, is to take a person’s statements, reverse the meaning, and then attack the person for what they want him to say in order to destroy him."- former government official, ISCA Supporter
(Washington, DC)—In an attempt to censor the viewpoints of moderate Muslims living in America, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) in concert with six other "American" Muslim organizations have unified to stifle the First Amendment rights of Shaykh Hisham Kabbani, chairman of the Islamic Supreme Council of America (ISCA), and have instigated a modern day Muslim lynch mob.
On February 25, 1999, seven Muslim organizations (see end of release), issued a statement condemning the discussion by Shaykh Kabbani at a State Department Open Forum on Islamic extremism and demanded that he issue an apology and retraction. They deliberately distorted the words and took phrases out of context from the speech, knowing it would incite furor and hatred towards the council and its chairman. In response, many emotionally-charged individuals have issued threatening statements to Shaykh Kabbani and his council members. The following are excerpts from a few of the written responses received thus far, illustrating the very actions the scholar warned against in his address:
"YOU ARE ALL ISRAELI AGENTS. WE WILL DESTROY YOU. DIE IN HELL. Beware of your actions….The Anti-Kabbani Coordinating Council is in the process of being formed…." – Irfan Handoo, Kansas City, student and member of ISNA
I CAN'T BELIEVE THE STATEMENTS IN CAIR..!!! Stay away from the next ISNA or any other Islamic conference!!! If not you will walk away limping if not worse. I swear by Allah..! –from email account
billclinton64@hotmail.com "I WANT TO SEE YOU DEAD…lets just say it’s a result of the recent tide of something that you have such a genuine fear of that you must warn your friends…[about] the extremist students…the last one you’ll ever see" – unsigned but copied to students of the Organization of Arab Students, University of Maryland-College Park
As in Uzbekistan, where Muslim extremists recently killed 200 fellow Muslims, there is a modern day witch hunt taking place throughout the world, including the West. In America, the stage has also been set for the imposition of the tyrannical practices of the extremists, but the actors and tactical approach are different.
"The carefully orchestrated and calculated plot to intimidate Shaykh Kabbani into retracting his statements only goes to prove the unwillingness to tolerate differences of opinion and belief; as well as the extent to which they would go to silence the voice of opposition. These organizations have recklessly endangered the lives of our officers and members by unjustly provoking the community against us. We shall hold them personally responsible for any physical, emotional, or psychological damages that may ensue from their irresponsible behavior. " – ISCA General Secretary, Dr. Hedieh Mirahmadi.
The Islamic Supreme Council of America invites the entire Muslim population, US government officials and media representatives to investigate this civil war and conclude for themselves who is really responsible for endangering the security of Muslims in the US.
A DETAILED POINT-BY-POINT RESPONSE TO THE CAIR PRESS RELEASE, THE TRANSCRIPT AND DIGITIZED VIDEO OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT OPEN FORUM CAN BE OBTAINED IMMEDIATELY FROM THE ISCA WEBSITE AT
http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.org, The seven organizations who have instigated the vicious attacks and conspired a world-wide campaign against traditional Islam are: American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC), American Muslim Alliance (AMA), American Muslim Council (AMC), Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), & Muslim Students Association of USA & Canada (MSA).
The Islamic Supreme Council of America (ISCA) is an educational organization based in Washington, DC.
So I guess this means that unless you agree with CAIR you are a racist and anti-muslim...even if you are a muslim.