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GPL is no hippie dream
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| 12/08/03
| Linus Torvalds
Posted on 12/09/2003 8:45:01 AM PST by Salo
GPL is no hippie dream IDG News Service 12/8/03
Linus Torvalds, IDG News Service
Last Thursday, The SCO Group Inc. Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Darl McBride posted an open letter on SCO's Web site arguing that Linux backers were threatening to undermine the copyright protections provided in U.S. and European law. McBride's posting was the latest in a series of public statements by SCO portraying the open-source operating system as a threat to the commercial software industry and an enemy of intellectual property. "There is a group of software developers in the United States, and other parts of the world, that do not believe in the approach to copyright protection mandated by Congress," McBride wrote.
In this column, Linux creator Linus Torvalds rebuts Mr. McBride's arguments, arguing that the GPL (GNU General Public License) software license that governs Linux has far more in common with U.S. Copyright Law than McBride suggests.
I was recently sent a copy of SCO CEO Darl McBride's Open Letter on copyright law. As usual, Mr. McBride portrays the Linux community as the enemy of copyright. As always, he gets fundamental facts wrong.
Their argument about copyright law is totally specious, and fails any sensible test. They claim that the U.S. Congress' authority under the U.S. Constitution to "promote the Progress of Science and the useful arts" inherently includes a profit motive.
This is an obvious misrepresentation of facts. It's akin to saying that public universities are fundamentally unconstitutional, since they "promote the Progress of Science" yet they aren't motivated by profit.
There is nothing unconstitutional in not being motivated by money alone, although clearly money -- rather than sense, law or anything else -- is what motivates Darl McBride.
Recently, we had an unrelated copyright discussion on the Linux kernel discussion list (some people still want to have binary only modules and try to argue that the GPL doesn't ever cover them).
Anyway, that's beside the point, though it does show that some people want to take advantage of open source without giving anything back. But after the discussion, I ended up looking up the exact wording of the U.S. copyright law and guess what I found:
"The term 'financial gain' includes receipt, or expectation of receipt, of anything of value, including the receipt of other copyrighted works."
This is from U.S. Code Collection, Title 17 (copyrights), Chapter 1, Section 101: "Definitions." In short, this is from the very first section in copyright law -- the section that defines terms even before those terms are used. This is some pretty fundamental stuff when it comes to copyrights in the U.S.
Pertinent, if you will.
And note how copyright law expressly includes "the expectation of receipt" of anything of value, and expressly mentions "receipt of other copyrighted works" as such a thing of value. And that's the very definition of "financial gain," as far as U.S. copyright law is concerned.
Now guess what the GPL is all about?
Maybe someone can explain to Darl that the GPL is designed so that people receive the value of other peoples copyrighted works in return for having made their own contributions. That is the fundamental idea of the whole license -- everything else is just legal fluff.
So not only is Darl wrong when he attacks the GPL as being somehow against "financial gain;" the notion that the GPL has, of "exchange of receipt of copyrighted works," is actually explicitly encoded in U.S. copyright law. It's not just a crazy idea that some lefty Commie hippie dreamed up in a drug-induced stupor.
So if Darl calls that notion unconstitutional, he is actually attacking the U.S. code as it stands today.
If you want to check that legal quote yourself, the place to go is http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/101.html.
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Technical
KEYWORDS: gpl; ibm; linux; sco
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posted on
12/09/2003 8:45:04 AM PST
by
Salo
To: rdb3; Nick Danger; ShadowAce; TechJunkYard; Golden Eagle
Pinging interested parties and for a Penguin Ping.
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posted on
12/09/2003 8:46:32 AM PST
by
Salo
To: Bush2000
A bronzed turd for you! :-)
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posted on
12/09/2003 8:47:34 AM PST
by
Salo
(Hold my beer and watch this!)
To: Salo
I saw this quoted on Groklaw yesterday with no source attribution. Thanx for finding and posting it!
To: Salo
Better reading it here than on the communist slashdot.
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posted on
12/09/2003 9:07:58 AM PST
by
Crazieman
To: TechJunkYard
Interesting take on the "financial" gains not being necessarily monetary. I am writing a stock market program which of necessity takes advantage of open ssource material. Eventually, I guess I will need to put code back into the system.
To: FastCoyote
.. takes advantage of open ssource material. Eventually, I guess I will need to put code back into the system.If you release it to the world, if any of it came from GPL'd source, releasing your source is the right thing to do.
To: John Robinson; B Knotts; stainlessbanner; TechJunkYard; ShadowAce; Knitebane; AppyPappy; jae471; ...
The Penguin Ping.
Wanna be Penguified? Just holla!

Got root?
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posted on
12/09/2003 9:29:07 AM PST
by
rdb3
(1971 - 2003: From underrated to most anticipated.)
To: Salo
This is such a basic notion, it's embarrassing for some Americans to have to listen to a lecture from Linus Torvalds about it. Here's another example Linus didn't mention:
We have entire American industries who make a living providing IT services, and for whom operating systems (and application servers, database servers, etc.) are simply expenses detracting from their own potential profit. Having open source products to choose from (in addition to the proprietary stuff) is of terrific value to them. So much so that they frequently contribute work to these products.
People who can't see the profit motive for companies involved in GPL / open source stuff are the sort of people who don't understand basic chess - the best players look more than one move ahead to achieve their goal.
To: Snuffington
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posted on
12/09/2003 9:50:55 AM PST
by
Tribune7
(David Limbaugh never said his brother had a "nose like a vacuum cleaner")
To: Salo
Torvalds wishes he had some level of importance in our government, and over our laws, but fact is he's got zero and is not even a citizen. Looks like McBride's baiting got him out in the open, which was probably the plan all along.
To: Salo
"The term 'financial gain' includes receipt, or expectation of receipt, of anything of value, including the receipt of other copyrighted works." Doesn't sound like communism to me.
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posted on
12/09/2003 10:03:43 AM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
To: Golden Eagle
Torvalds wishes he had some level of importance in our government... ??
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posted on
12/09/2003 10:09:47 AM PST
by
Liberal Classic
(No better friend, no worse enemy.)
To: Salo
Here is McBride's original letter, which Torvalds didn't fully respond to. When you read this below, then read Tovald's response, Torvald's respone does actually look like a "hippie dream", or that of some foreigner raised by communists who doesn't understand capitalism.
Open Letter on Copyrights
From Darl McBride, CEO
Since last March The SCO Group (SCO) has been involved in an increasingly rancorous legal controversy over violations of our UNIX intellectual property contract, and what we assert is the widespread presence of our copyrighted UNIX code in Linux. These controversies will rage for at least another 18 months, until our original case comes to trial. Meanwhile, the facts SCO has raised have become one of the most important and hotly debated technology issues this year, and often our positions on these issues have been misunderstood or misrepresented. Starting with this letter, I'd like to explain our positions on the key issues. In the months ahead we'll post a series of letters on the SCO Web site ( www.sco.com ). Each of these letters will examine one of the many issues SCO has raised. In this letter, we'll provide our view on the key issue of U.S. copyright law versus the GNU GPL (General Public License).
SCO asserts that the GPL, under which Linux is distributed, violates the United States Constitution and the U.S. copyright and patent laws. Constitutional authority to enact patent and copyright laws was granted to Congress by the Founding Fathers under Article I, § 8 of the United States Constitution:
Congress shall have Power
[t]o promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.
This Constitutional declaration gave rise to our system of copyrights and patents. Congress has enacted several iterations of the Copyright Act. The foundation for current copy protection in technology products is grounded in the 1976 Copyright Act. The 1976 Act grew out of Congressional recognition that the United States was rapidly lagging behind Japan and other countries in technology innovation. In order to protect our ability to innovate and regain global leadership in technology, Congress extended copyright protection to technology innovations, including software. The 1976 Act had the desired effect. The U.S. economy responded rapidly, and within 10 years had regained global technology leadership.
Most recently, Congress has adopted the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) to protect the intellectual property rights embodied in digital products and software. Congress adopted the DMCA in recognition of the risk to the American economy that digital technology could easily be pirated and that without protection, American companies would unfairly lose technology advantages to companies in other countries through piracy, as had happened in the 1970's. It is paramount that the DMCA be given full force and effect, as envisioned by Congress. The judgment of our elected officials in Congress is the law of the land in the U.S. copyright arena, and should be respected as such. If allowed to work properly, we have no doubt that the DMCA will create a beneficial effect for the entire economy in digital technology development, similar to the benefits created by the 1976 Copyright Act.
However, there is a group of software developers in the United States, and other parts of the world, that do not believe in the approach to copyright protection mandated by Congress. In the past 20 years, the Free Software Foundation and others in the Open Source software movement have set out to actively and intentionally undermine the U.S. and European systems of copyrights and patents. Leaders of the FSF have spent great efforts, written numerous articles and sometimes enforced the provisions of the GPL as part of a deeply held belief in the need to undermine or eliminate software patent and copyright laws.
The software license adopted by the GPL is called copy left by its authors. This is because the GPL has the effect of requiring free and open access to Linux (and other) software code and prohibits any proprietary use thereof. As a result, the GPL is exactly opposite in its effect from the copy right laws adopted by the US Congress and the European Union.
This stance against intellectual property laws has been adopted by several companies in the software industry, most notably Red Hat. Red Hat's position is that current U.S. intellectual property law impedes innovation in software development and that software patents are inconsistent with open source/free software. Red Hat has aggressively lobbied Congress to eliminate software patents and copyrights. (see
http://www.redhat.com/legal/patent_policy.html ).
At SCO we take the opposite position. SCO believes that copyright and patent laws adopted by the United States Congress and the European Union are critical to the further growth and development of the $186 billion global software industry, and to the technology business in general.
In taking this position SCO has been attacked by the Free Software Foundation, Red Hat and many software developers who support their efforts to eliminate software patents and copyrights. Internet chat boards are filled with attacks against SCO, its management and its lawyers. Personal threats abound. At times the nature of these attacks is breathtaking the emotions are obscuring the very clear and important legal issues SCO has raised. This is to be expected when the controversy concerns such deeply held beliefs. Despite the raw emotions, however, the issue is clear: do you support copyrights and ownership of intellectual property as envisioned by our elected officials in Congress and the European Union, or do you support free as in free from ownership intellectual property envisioned by the Free Software Foundation, Red Hat and others? There really is no middle ground. The future of the global economy hangs in the balance.
As SCO prepares new initiatives to protect our intellectual property rights, we do so with the knowledge that the most powerful voices in our democratic process give clear support to the intellectual property laws we seek to enforce. As stated above, the United States Congress has adopted the Digital Millennium Copyright Act to give clear and unequivocal protection to copyright management information distributed with software. We are also in accord with important decisions of the United States Supreme Court in the copyright area. In the case of Eldred v. Ashcroft, decided earlier this year, the United States Supreme Court gave clear and unequivocal support to Congress's authority to legislate in the copyright arena. The European Union remains firmly in support of intellectual property laws, as embodied generally in the Berne Convention.
Thus, SCO is confident that the legal underpinning of our arguments is sound. We understand that the litigation process is never easy for any party involved. Our stance on this issue has made SCO very unpopular with some. But we believe that we will prevail through the legal system, because our position is consistent with the clear legal authority set down by the U.S. Congress, the U.S. Supreme Court and the European Union.
To understand the strength of this authority, it is interesting to read the recent U.S. Supreme Court case, Eldred v. Ashcroft , 123 S.Ct. 769 (2003). In Eldred , key arguments similar to those advanced by the open source movement with respect to copyright laws were fully considered, and rejected, by the U.S. Supreme Court. This suggests that however forcefully Open Source advocates argue against copyright and patent laws, and whatever measures they take to circumvent those laws, our intellectual property laws will carry the day.
The majority opinion in Eldred was delivered by Justice Ginsberg, in which Chief Justice Rehnquist and Justices O'Connor, Scalia, Kennedy, Souter and Thomas joined. Dissenting opinions were filed by Justice Stevens and Justice Breyer. In Eldred , the petitioner argued that the Copyright Term Extension Act enacted by Congress in 1998 was unconstitutional. The U.S. Supreme Court disagreed, ruling that Congress had full constitutional authority to pass the Extension Act. The Court's analysis of the constitutional foundation of the Copyright Act applies directly to the debate between SCO and FSF / Red Hat regarding intellectual property protection for software.
SCO argues that the authority of Congress under the U.S. Constitution to promote the Progress of Science and the useful arts
inherently includes a profit motive, and that protection for this profit motive includes a Constitutional dimension. We believe that the progress of science is best advanced by vigorously protecting the right of authors and inventors to earn a profit from their work.
The Free Software Foundation, Red Hat and other GPL advocates take the contrary position. The FSF and Red Hat believe that the progress of science is best advanced by eliminating the profit motive from software development and insuring free, unrestricted public access to software innovations. The Free Software Foundation was established for this purpose. The GPL implements this purpose. Red Hat speaks for a large community of software developers dedicated to this purpose. However, the U.S. Supreme Court has dramatically undercut this position with its guidance in Eldred in how to define the term promote the Progress of Science and the useful arts
under the Constitution.
In Eldred , the U.S. Supreme Court addressed for the first time in recent history the Constitutional meaning of the term promote the Progress of Science and the useful arts
Seven Supreme Court justices defined the term one way and SCO agrees with this definition. Two dissenting justices defined the term differently.
Let's consider the dissenting view. Justice Breyer articulated a dissenting view that the Constitutional objective of promot [ing] the Progress of Science is oriented to benefit the general public good, rather than create a private reward for authors. Justice Breyer posited:
The Clause does not exist to provide a special private benefit,
but to stimulate artistic creativity for the general public good
. The reward is a means, not an end.
123 S.Ct. at 802-03. Under this view of the U.S. Constitution, Justice Breyer would find a Congressional act unconstitutional if, among other things, the significant benefits that it bestows are private, not public. Of course, this argument is at the very core of the positions advanced by the Free Software Foundation, Red Hat, and the General Public License. According to the FSF, Red Hat and under the GPL, private benefits are impediments to the general advancement of science and technology, and need to be eliminated entirely from the software industry and the process of software development.
But, unfortunately for the FSF, Red Hat and others, this dissenting view was squarely rejected in the majority opinion delivered for the Court by Justice Ginsberg. The majority position specifically acknowledges the importance of the profit motive as it underpins the constitutionality of the Copyright Act. In expressing this position, the majority opinion stated as follows:
Justice Stevens' characterization of reward to the author as a secondary consideration of copyright law
understates the relationship between such rewards and the relationship between such rewards and the Progress of Science. As we have explained, [t]he economic philosophy behind the [Copyright [C]lause
is the conviction that encouragement of individual effort by personal gain is the best way to advance public welfare through the talents of authors and inventors.
Accordingly, copyright law celebrates the profit motive, recognizing that the incentive to profit from the exploitation of copyrights will redound to the public benefit by resulting in the proliferation of knowledge
. The profit motive is the engine that ensures the progress of science.
Rewarding authors for their creative labor and promot [ing]
Progress are thus complementary; as James Madison observed, in copyright [t]he public good fully coincides
with the claims of individuals. The Federalist No. 43, p. 272 (D. Rossiter ed.1961.) Justice Breyer's assertion that copyright statutes must serve public, not private, ends
similarly misses the mark. The two ends are not mutually exclusive; copyright law serves public ends by providing individuals with an incentive to pursue private ones.
123 S.Ct. at 785, fn. 18; emphasis in original.
Based on the views of the U.S. Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court, we believe that adoption and use of the GPL by significant parts of the software industry was a mistake. The positions of the Free Software Foundation and Red Hat against proprietary software are ill-founded and are contrary to our system of copyright and patent laws. We believe that responsible corporations throughout the IT industry have advocated use of the GPL without full analysis of its long-term detriment to our economy. We are confident that these corporations will ultimately reverse support for the GPL, and will pursue a more responsible direction.
In the meantime, the U.S. Congress has authorized legal action against copyright violators under the Copyright Act and its most recent amendment, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. SCO intends to fully protect its rights granted under these Acts against all who would use and distribute our intellectual property for free, and would strip out copyright management information from our proprietary code, use it in Linux, and distribute it under the GPL.
We take these actions secure in the knowledge that our system of copyright laws is built on the foundation of the U.S. Constitution and that our rights will be protected under law. We do so knowing that those who believe software should be free cannot prevail against the U.S. Congress and voices of seven U.S. Supreme Court justices who believe that the motive of profit is the engine that ensures the progress of science.
To: Golden Eagle
The whole thing is confirming Nick Danger's opinion, Tweety Bird -- the reason Darl's outbursts are reported in any terms other than "CEO Loses It; Sputters Drivel" reflects a fundamental incompetence (ignorance and/or laziness) on the part of the press.
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posted on
12/09/2003 10:14:53 AM PST
by
steve-b
To: Golden Eagle
> Looks like McBride's baiting got him out in
> the open, which was probably the plan all along.
- Linus has commented on the case before.
- Based on how SCO got whacked by the judge in court last week, "plan" seems to be beyond McBride's competency.
The SCO posturing is really McCarthyesque ...
"we have a list of thousands of stolen lines of code"
(but we won't share it even with the defendant [IBM]
and we want the defendant to tell us what they stole).
The judge ended that game on Friday. SCO now has to at
least tell IBM, with specificity, exactly what code is
supposed to have been stolen.
http://www.groklaw.net has great analysis of the evolving saga.
To: Golden Eagle
Did Darl teach Clinton how to obfuscate, or did Clinton teach him?
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posted on
12/09/2003 10:20:25 AM PST
by
steve-b
To: Golden Eagle
This stance against intellectual property laws has been adopted by several companies in the software industry, most notably Red Hat. Red Hat's position is that current U.S. intellectual property law "impedes innovation in software development" and that "software patents are inconsistent with open source/free software." Red Hat has aggressively lobbied Congress to eliminate software patents and copyrights. (see http://www.redhat.com/legal/patent_policy.html ). From the RedHat page:
Our Position on Software Patents
Red Hat has consistently taken the position that software patents generally impede innovation in software development and that software patents are inconsistent with open source/free software.
My question to you, Golden Eagle, did you read the page referred to by McBride?
RedHat does not oppose United States intellectual property law as implied by SCO. They do not oppose patents generally or copyrights. They say that they believe specifically software patents are bad because they stifle innovation in the software industry. Hardly a communist manifesto.
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posted on
12/09/2003 10:28:15 AM PST
by
Liberal Classic
(No better friend, no worse enemy.)
To: Golden Eagle
Torvalds wishes he had some level of importance in our government, and over our laws, but fact is he's got zero and is not even a citizen. Looks like McBride's baiting got him out in the open, which was probably the plan all along. Yep, quoting the section of the pertinent law that completely supports your position is so lame. </sarcasm>
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posted on
12/09/2003 10:33:09 AM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
To: Golden Eagle
Torvalds wishes he had some level of importance in our governmenttinfoil alert
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