[AreaMan]

I suppose Boeing is doing what they think they have to do in order to survive.

I wonder if Airbus would abandon its manufacturing in Europe to build facilities in China?

[farmfriend]

This really bothers me. And we are doing this with our food as well, not just weapons parts.

[Dominic Harr]

Bottom line, to me:

A 'corporation' has become a 'collective' person. Collectively-owned, collectively-managed. The 'individuals' running the collective at any given moment are insulated from almost any external accountability.

It's such a national problem that 'Dilbert' has made a pretty good living off of the 'PHB' syndrome.

All our corporate problems are problems associated with colletives. Inefficiency. Waste. Corruption. Management that is completely devoid of any experience or talent in the business they're actually in. A 'hierarchy' of management

Consider the Erin Brockovitch story. A 'corporation' takes decisions that kill people. The punishment is for the corp to pay out money, most of which went to the lawyers. Look at Enron, for god's sake.

We've actually created a set of laws that make the favored business organization a 'collective'.

It's literally not safe to be an old-fashioned 'sole-proprietor' entrepeneur in America.

Are we still a 'capitalist' country if we're dominated by collectives?

[EagleMamaMT]

Read later.

[Looking for Diogenes]

For example, the White House has agreed to allow Boeing to transfer two 737-800 aircraft to China that contain the QRS11 computer chip in their navigation systems. The chip has the potential to be used for military applications, such as in missile guidance systems. The chip is on the restricted Munitions List and should require an export license, but the State Department has given Boeing a pass.

Boeing does it again. We justifiably take Clinton to task for sharing missile technology with China, but of course it wasn't Clinton himself who shared the technology; it was Boeing. Now the current administration is doing the same thing as the last one did - allowing Boeing to export criticial technologies which could be used in weapons. I guess it's business as usual.

[GOP_1900AD]

In a hallway conversation, the CEO of a certain Fortune 500 company was heard to utter, about one month ago, that even the tepid measures put in place after 9/11 to protect our borders, prevent dual use technology from falling into evil anti Western hands, and, chastize the PRC for proliferation, were, in his own words, "a knee jerk reaction." This individual while of Libertarian bent is a long time GOP contributor. I have a photo of him embracing W during the 2000 campaign. This demonstrates the nature of the beast, one hand contributes, while the other hand make back stabbing moves in cases where the government seeks to reign in the worst cases of national security corrosion. Knee jerk reaction? Please... the current measures are half measures at best! What will this guy and others like him say and do if we end up in a war with another great power, or even an Axis of smaller powers? This needs to be investigated by the DIA, FBI, Homeland Security and any one else who contributes to national security strategy for all of its implications.

[GOP_1900AD]

And I might add "Belmont Mark helped train ChiCOM engineers in advanced design for assembly, design for robustness and quality planning methods which will now allow them to serial product WMDs and their control systems." Boy am I kicking myself now! Yeah, I used to be on that same bandwagon as the Business Roundtable crowd. Deluded they are with utopian visions as expounded by Thomas L. Friedman's "The Lexus and the Olive Tree." These people honestly believe that convergence, on Western terms, is inevitable. They believe that when we passed the supposed end of the Cold War, we passed beyond the end of history, and entered into a period where geopolitics and nation-to-nation relationships no longer mattered and were replaced by the so called "Fast World" or the "World Without Walls." In this supposed beyond-history universe, the only threats are now so called "rogue nations" and so called "superempowered angry individuals." Somehow, it is similar to the delusional nature of many in late 1860s France, as they scoffed at the suggestions of a small but aware faction that Prussia was preparing for war. Will today's decadent ones be similarly surprised by a future Bismarck, or by a group of Bismarcks?

[A. Pole]

Under the original proposal as crafted by House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter (R-CA), all critical components in a weapon system would have had to be American-made and the overall system had to be 65 percent American. Those two requirements were eliminated under intense pressure from the Bush Administration, whose commitment to the recovery of American manufacturing has now been clearly shown to be phony.

How is it possible that critical components do not have to be American-made?! Or am I dreaming? Or maybe the producers will be restricted to the trusty members of NATO alliance like France or Germany?

Is this process under supervision of WTO?

[Doctor Stochastic]

"He makes the rules , and he intends to keep it thataway
What's good for General Motors is good for the U.S.A."

Adapted from the chorus refrain from the musical version of "L'l Abner"

[Dr Warmoose]

The 7E7 is to be a super-efficient, long-range aircraft pushing the edge in aviation technology... Boeing wants more Chinese participation in the program because it sees Beijing as a strategically important part of its globalization strategy. Boeing has forecast that China will need nearly 2,400 new airliners long-range hi-tech bombers, worth $197 billion, over the next two decades.

So the 'ol 401k and pension fund needs supporting by selling out the next generation

White House has agreed to allow Boeing to transfer two 737-800 aircraft to China that contain the QRS11 computer chip in their navigation systems. The chip has the potential to be used for military applications, such as in missile guidance systems.

I never want to hear again any Bushbot call Clinton a traitor for the Loral Deal when Bush vetoed legislation that would have linked China's trade status with its performance on the spread of weapons - then performs the exact "act of treason" by giving his blessings over the hand-over of restricted military gear. In effect, George Bush is indeed arming our enemies like Iran and North Korea.

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

"For example, the White House has agreed to allow Boeing to transfer two 737-800 aircraft to China that contain the QRS11 computer chip in their navigation systems. The chip has the potential to be used for military applications, such as in missile guidance systems. The chip is on the restricted Munitions List and should require an export license, but the State Department has given Boeing a pass. The House International Relations Committee has raised questions about this transaction, but will likely have no more success is constraining Boeing than did the House Armed Services committee. "

"...provide for the common defense"

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

...and in other related news last month, 12 Catholic Clerics were arrested in Communist China...

[quack]

" China, in particular, has taken different shapes in different eyes at different times. An empire to be divided. A door to be opened. A model of collective conformity. A diplomatic card to be played. One year, it is said to be run by "the butchers of Beijing." A few years later, the same administration pronounces it a "strategic partner."

We must see China clearly -- not through the filters of posturing and partisanship. China is rising, and that is inevitable. Here, our interests are plain: We welcome a free and prosperous China. We predict no conflict. We intend no threat. And there are areas where we must try to cooperate: preventing the spread of weapons of mass destruction… attaining peace on the Korean peninsula.

Yet the conduct of China’s government can be alarming abroad, and appalling at home. Beijing has been investing its growing wealth in strategic nuclear weapons... new ballistic missiles… a blue-water navy and a long-range airforce. It is an espionage threat to our country. Meanwhile, the State Department has reported that "all public dissent against the party and government [has been] effectively silenced" – a tragic achievement in a nation of 1.2 billion people. China’s government is an enemy of religious freedom and a sponsor of forced abortion – policies without reason and without mercy.

All of these facts must be squarely faced. China is a competitor, not a strategic partner. We must deal with China without ill-will – but without illusions.Governor George W. Bush November 19,1999 Speach on Foreign Policy at Ronald Reagan Presidential Library