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Vegans vs. Atkins
Salon ^ | December 8, 2003 | Katharine Mieszkowski

Posted on 12/09/2003 6:41:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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Is It Possible to Follow the Atkins Diet Healthfully? [Full Text]

One of the vice presidents of Tufts posed the following questions. Is it possible to do the Atkins diet healthfully? And if not, is there a way to tweak the low-carbohydrate plan to make it more nutritious for those people who want to try it to lose weight?

With Dr. Atkins’ New Diet Revolution on the New York Times bestseller list for six and a half years straight with no sign of its sales letting up, we thought the answers to those questions would be more than timely. So we ploughed through the book—again—to see whether there was any way to reconcile Dr. Atkins’s weight-loss instructions with the principles of good nutrition accepted by the health-promoting community at large.

The most logical way to approach the project, it seemed, was to devise menus based on Dr. Atkins’s advice for the four phases of his plan—Induction, Ongoing Weight Loss, Pre-Maintenance, and Maintenance—and then see where adjustments could be made. It was not easy. As anyone with even a passing familiarity of the Atkins diet knows, there are no calorie restrictions, so deciding on amounts of various foods to include in the menus is something of an arbitrary decision. And the sample menus included in the back of Dr. Atkins’s book are of no help because they don’t jibe with the instructions in the text. For instance, the text says that by the time someone is up to the Maintenance phase, he or she may be able to enjoy up to three “deviations” a week, a deviation being anything from a serving of fruit to a couple of slices of whole- wheat bread to a baked potato. (All get most of their calories from carbohydrates.) But the “Typical Mainten-ance Menu” almost 100 pages later shows at least four or five deviations on a single day: half a cantaloupe, French onion soup (which tends to come with a thick slice of bread floating at the top), half a small baked potato, veal chops that are lightly breaded (the breading is made from carbohydrates), and a “generous cup” of fruit compote.

In the end, we decided to construct menus for the four phases that contained 1,800 calories each. That seemed like a reasonable calorie allotment for most people wanting to lose weight, including women, as long as they consistently logged a half hour to an hour of exercise each day.

Then we got stuck. The book is adamant in its instructions to avoid certain foods. The first phase—the 14-day Induction Diet that people are supposed to start with—contains “no fruit, bread, grains, starchy vegetables, or dairy products other than cheese, cream, or butter.” That means no milk or yogurt, no whole-wheat breads or cereals. And that, in turn, means no easy sources of calcium or vitamin D or whole-wheat phytochemicals that researchers are discovering may play a role in warding off illnesses such as heart disease and diabetes. Dr. Atkins does say to take a multivitamin, but the formula he recommends contains no calcium and too little vitamin D to meet anyone’s needs. And it doesn’t have any of the fiber or other chemicals contained in whole wheat.

The next phase, Ongoing Weight Loss, or OWL, is more lenient, but readers are still warned that fruit-eating will “always” be “somewhat risky.” And Pre-Maintenance, the last two or three months “to shed the last 10 pounds” before transitioning to Maintenance, includes only one to two “deviations” a week.

Then, too, all four phases, devised here according to the letter of Dr. Atkins’s instructions, are extremely high in saturated fat and dietary cholesterol, large amounts of which are not consistent with heart health.

Granted, we could have taken a stab at tweaking the menu for each phase—limiting some of the foods high in saturated fat, like creamy dressings, whipped cream, cream cheese, bacon, and butter and replacing the calories from those items with calories from fruits, whole grains, and low- and nonfat dairy products. But then it wouldn’t have resembled the Atkins plan anymore. It would have begun to morph from the unnecessarily restrictive and nutritionally deficient diet that it is into one that more resembles a plain old healthful diet. And you already know what that looks like: a few servings of whole-grain foods each day, such as whole-grain breads and cereals; at least three servings of fruit and two of vegetables; a couple of servings of high-calcium dairy foods; smallish portions of meat, poultry, and fish; and sparing additions of cooking oil, mayonnaise, and other fats.

So, as to whether it’s possible to follow the Atkins diet healthfully or tweak it to make it safe and healthful, the answers are no and no. To be sure, Americans do eat too many calories in the way of refined or processed (as opposed to whole-wheat) carbohydrates, which means too much cake, candy, pastries, muffins, ice cream, pasta, outsized bagels, soda pop, white bread, pizza, sweetened cereal, and French fries. And inappropriately large (and frequent) servings of all those foods are most definitely contributing to our expanding girth. But you don’t need a 300-page diet book to advise you on making adjustments. Just eat smaller portions less often—and cut down on the junk. [End]

1 posted on 12/09/2003 6:41:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You know, I'm a vegetarian who relies heavily on a soy based diet, with fruit and veggies. Basically I choose to be vegetarian not because I love the animals most humans eat, but because I hate them. I'm in very good health but couldn't give a rats tinker who eats meat, how much or why. Why don't these Vegan types just leave people alone?
2 posted on 12/09/2003 6:50:43 AM PST by Hillary's Folly (Imagine there's no Hillary. It's easy if you try.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Animal-rights activists claim that low-carb, meat-heavy diets are killing people.

Well, since animal-rights activists see animals as people...

3 posted on 12/09/2003 6:51:06 AM PST by danneskjold
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I had an uncle that used to eat pickles. He ended up getting cancer and died. I will never eat pickles again!
4 posted on 12/09/2003 6:51:52 AM PST by Jerry Attrick
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So, as to whether it’s possible to follow the Atkins diet healthfully or tweak it to make it safe and healthful, the answers are no and no.

Typical pseudoscience/journalism masquerading as a "scientific test." They set up a strawman as to what constitutes "healthful" and then find the Atkins diet to be "not healthful." But their strawman defined "healthful" as "non-Atkins" to begin with! (e.g., healthful must include "balance" and "grains and fruit.")

5 posted on 12/09/2003 6:52:33 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: Hillary's Folly
Same here. Why does it have to be one diet or the other? Let everyone find what works for him/herself and get these drummers off their soapbox(es). For God's sake, people, figure it out for yourself based on how you feel--and look in the mirror once in awhile to do a reality check.
6 posted on 12/09/2003 6:53:34 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Jerry Attrick
I will never eat pickles again!

Dill or sweet?

7 posted on 12/09/2003 6:56:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus
You tell 'em Cincinatus!
8 posted on 12/09/2003 6:57:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: sarasota
Let everyone find what works for him/herself and get these drummers off their soapbox(es).

Bump!

9 posted on 12/09/2003 6:57:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Hillary's Folly
Why don't these Vegan types just leave people alone?

Bump!

10 posted on 12/09/2003 6:58:12 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Jerry Attrick
I had a grandma that drank water. She got cancer and died.
11 posted on 12/09/2003 6:58:41 AM PST by Crazieman
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To: sarasota
figure it out for yourself based on how you feel

So true. This is why I quit eating meat. I couldn't stand the way it made me feel, laying in my stomach causing all sorts of gastric distress. After I quit I put on quite a few pounds, what with all the bread and pasta, but I soon figured out how to manage that as well and have been feeling light and great ever since.

12 posted on 12/09/2003 6:58:57 AM PST by Hillary's Folly (Imagine there's no Hillary. It's easy if you try.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The trim 53-year-old's dark deal: "I traded a 32-inch waist for heart disease, and the devil was the Atkins diet."

A statement for which he has no proof.
Probably would have had problems regardless...

13 posted on 12/09/2003 7:00:27 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: Hillary's Folly
And, get this, I have normal bone density and a perfect blood profile for someone my age who's been on a lacto-veg diet for some 26 years. Some even say I don't look my age.
14 posted on 12/09/2003 7:01:09 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It wasn't too long ago that salt was a no-no because it "caused" high blood pressure. It was just another case of a few cases being elevated to an all-encompasing "fact". It turned out that onle some people had problems with salt and it exacerbated existing problems. I believe this is the same thing with those that want to blame the Atkins diet on their problems - if they have maintained good health (exercise, etc.,) and didn't have any budding problems to start with, it is unlikely a short time on Atkins can cause these problems - they don't just crop up overnight, it just seems that way when a long-term illness finally surfaces.
15 posted on 12/09/2003 7:03:44 AM PST by trebb
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Poohbah; veronica; Long Cut
Don't buy a lot of it. Both sides have folks whose bread is buttered by their approach. PCRM is more suspect in my book, though.
16 posted on 12/09/2003 7:05:46 AM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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To: hchutch; Hildy
I'd eat dirt if it helped me stay slim. :)
17 posted on 12/09/2003 7:09:14 AM PST by veronica (I just realised I have a perfect part for you in Terminator 2....)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
As news outlets gobbled up the story -- "Low-Carb, High-Protein Diets Can Be Deadly" and "Doctors Blast Atkins Diet"

paid advertisements from those losing marketshare, such as Weight Watchers, etc....

18 posted on 12/09/2003 7:10:27 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo
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To: trebb
--yup--then there were eggs. For thirty years or so we were told (by the FDA, largely) eggs were a no-no--long enough to reduce the national consumption by half and put a large percentage of egg producers out of business--then along came enlightenment and lo and behold, turned out eggs weren't so bad after all--
19 posted on 12/09/2003 7:11:50 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: veronica
Not going to go that far...

Thank goodness for Stacker 2. :)
20 posted on 12/09/2003 7:13:40 AM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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