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Brothels and bombs in Saudi Arabia
asia times ^ | 12/9/3

Posted on 12/09/2003 4:13:03 AM PST by NativeNewYorker

KARACHI - The suicide bomb attack at the Muhaya residential compound in the Saudi Arabian capital of Riyadh on November 9 in which at least 17 people were killed - most of them foreign Arabs - was neither an episode of global jihadi terrorism nor part of a conspiracy to destabilize the House of Saud.

A Pakistani undercover intelligence operator who recently returned from Riyadh told Asia Times Online that the attack was in fact the result of a deep divide within Saudi society between strict religious conservatives with little exposure to the outside world, and a more "liberal" element with the money and power to indulge in restricted activities.

The compound attacked on November 9 was inhabited mainly by Lebanese, Palestinians and Egyptians, and it had earned notoriety as a "pleasure ground" for Saudi "playboys" in a country in which prostitution is outlawed. Apparently, some of the female residents of the compound were well known for their "exotic erotica", for which they were showered with money and gifts.

According to an Associated Press report, "Muhaya had a coffee shop where residents of both sexes chatted over water pipes and watched foreign movies and other entertainment on a big screen television. It was located next to a pool where women swam in bikinis."

The goings-on in the compound were seemingly known to the authorities, including agents of the Saudi religious police - the Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and Prevention of Vice - but nothing had been done about it, much to the anger of conservatives who wanted to "eliminate the evil in their society" and what they called the "Arab brothel of Riyadh".

It was as a result of this anger that the conservatives decided to bomb the complex, according to the Pakistani intelligence agent.

Initially, after the attack, several conservative groups stepped up their calls in support of the enforcement of strict rules in the country, but under immense pressure and the house arrest of two leading clerics by the Saudi government, these segments condemned "these acts of terror". The Saudi government has officially blamed al-Qaeda, even though the group is highly unlikely to be the culprit.

But though the motives behind the Riyadh bomb blast were local and social, not political and global, it shows possible problems ahead:

In the past, dissatisfaction within the ranks of the conservatives has occurred, but it has been papered over. In the era of mass communication, though, such cracks will become increasingly difficult to hide.

The conservative elements in the past have embodied a religious ideology, to which has now been added a hatred for the West.

The divide within the House of Saud, in which some factions support reforms and others do not, is as wide as ever.

People have started taking the law into their own hands.

The "pleasure center" at the Muhaya compound was not the only one of its kind in the country. More trouble can be expected.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 200311; alqaeda; religionofpeace; religionofpiece; riyadhbombing; saudiarabia

1 posted on 12/09/2003 4:13:06 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: NativeNewYorker
I guess we're supposed to believe a Pakistani intelligence officer likely working for Al Quaeda?
2 posted on 12/09/2003 4:31:45 AM PST by LarryM
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To: NativeNewYorker
"Muhaya had a coffee shop where residents of both sexes chatted over water pipes and watched foreign movies and other entertainment on a big screen television. It was located next to a pool where women swam in bikinis."

Oh, they are such degenerates.

Water pipes. Big screen TV. Bikinis!

Sodom and Gomorrah.

3 posted on 12/09/2003 4:48:54 AM PST by angkor
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To: LarryM
I guess we're supposed to believe a Pakistani intelligence officer likely working for Al Quaeda?

There's probably some nugget(s) of truth in what he says.

Brings back memories of those halcyon nights with the Filipino nurses from Yanbu Memorial at the Holiday Inn for dinner and a roll in the sack if you knew the right people and carried the right currency.

4 posted on 12/09/2003 4:52:41 AM PST by woofer
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To: NativeNewYorker
KARACHI - The suicide bomb attack at the Muhaya residential compound in the Saudi Arabian capital of Riyadh on November 9 in which at least 17 people were killed - most of them foreign Arabs - was neither an episode of global jihadi terrorism nor part of a conspiracy to destabilize the House of Saud.
A Pakistani undercover intelligence operator who recently returned from Riyadh told Asia Times Online that the attack was in fact the result of a deep divide within Saudi society between strict religious conservatives with little exposure to the outside world, and a more "liberal" element with the money and power to indulge in restricted activities.

It's traditional to insert some filler between mutually exclusive assertions.

Obviously, the "strict religious conservatives" are part of global jihadi terrorism (they're part of what goes on on this planet, and they are engaging in both jihad and terror), and they are attempting to destabilize the House of Saud by breaking the peace of its kingdom.

5 posted on 12/09/2003 4:55:18 AM PST by steve-b
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To: NativeNewYorker
It was as a result of this anger that the conservatives decided to bomb the complex, according to the Pakistani intelligence agent.

So much for religion of peace and tolerance and it's a tiny minority of nuts bombing everything in sight on account of disrespect and overt imperialism blah blah blah...

I missed the part where the U.S. government is pressuring the Saudis to excercise restraint in seeking out the freeom fighters...

6 posted on 12/09/2003 4:56:38 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: NativeNewYorker
There was an analagous situation in Dhahran back in the late 70s-early 80s when video cameras were fairly new- an ex-pat couple were singing w/other couples, and making videos, which were then passed around.

Local autthorities got hold of some copies...and were making ex-pat women undergo an examination by a (female) doctor before they could leave the country- seems one of the ladies had an identifiable butterfly tattoo in a "cheeky" location...

7 posted on 12/09/2003 5:25:15 AM PST by fourdeuce82d
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Muslim "safe-sex"..the burka as a female body condom..
8 posted on 12/09/2003 7:23:09 AM PST by ken5050
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To: fourdeuce82d
...an ex-pat couple were singing w/other couples, and making videos,...
The Saudis were quick to pick up on the societal evils inherent in Karaoke.
9 posted on 12/09/2003 7:29:46 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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...an ex-pat couple were singing w/other couples, and making videos,...

....D'OH- (smacking own head)

thanks- mongo need more coffe before posting...

10 posted on 12/09/2003 7:36:05 AM PST by fourdeuce82d
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