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To: Trollstomper
People have, in public, by not just Rove, but the PRESIDENT, been handed their head for calling attention to the problem

I see. And so now you must step in, because the President himself has the wrong policy. If Rove is taking his direction from the President, and Norquist is taking his from Rove, those two must be exposed, eliminated, and taken down, one by one, so that the President's policy cannot be carried out.

And this is under whose direction, sir? Your own?

That's pretty cheeky. It might also be insane. Or it could be the highest form of heroism. It might be difficult for us to sort that out.

Are you sure there isn't something going on here that's above your pay grade? It seems to me that we either believe that, or we believe that the President is in cahoots with Rove, Norquist, and the other traitors to hand the U.S. over to the bad guys. I mean, it's either that or you're a nut.

666 posted on 12/16/2003 5:47:03 PM PST by Nick Danger (With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.)
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To: Nick Danger
Look.. I directly and factually commented on a known event,much publicised. You can draw whatever conclusion you wish. The USSS came into a WH outreach group meeting (Faith Based Initiatives) and removed Samil AlArian's sone. They did this, as they said anyway, because his name came up as an alternative name for his father, who was on their bad list. Grover and Saffuri made a "federal issue" --that is to say the screamed "Civil rights" an the whoel gang joined the. Mahdi Bray, a former SDS member who was in the mtg later called his rump group the White House 8 because they went out and clung to the WH fence in defiance until the news people came. All above saw it as an opporunity to take advantage of a law enforcement "mistake" (doing their job)and run the "civil rights bloddy shirt up the pole. So , swinging into action, Al Arian et cie demand an apology; Grover and Saffuri got Rove to demand teh USSS write one, they get this asked about at the press con, the press secy says the President is aware and sorry and their can be no such behavior, profilingor whateve, and calls Mrs Al Arian to apologize and convey that the USSS has been directed to do the same. Rove and Grover and the lobby made up thier own tempest so they could serve their agenda and the President looks like he is putting a slug in "racism" and profiling, the USSS gets chewed out for doing their job, everyone gets the message not to do THAT again, and that Grover is one powerful dude. The muj get to cite the example for ever, and get on TV immediately, and the wife of the now-jailed worldwide secretary of the Palestinian Islamic ihad, gets a phoned apology from the President and an aoplogy from the USSS. Yeah, ain't it nuts? That's the sorry, that's what I referred to, the rest is your smoke.
668 posted on 12/16/2003 6:10:03 PM PST by Trollstomper
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To: Nick Danger
What's your pay grade, Nick?
670 posted on 12/16/2003 6:29:15 PM PST by bvw
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