[Sabertooth]

But, the final results of Grover "being used" was the arrests, the prosecutions, the convictions and the sentencing of terrorists.

Is it your contention that Norquist was a knowing participant in the FBI's investigation?

[FreeReign]

Is it your contention that Norquist was a knowing participant in the FBI's investigation?

It's only my contention that I haven't seen evidence that Norquist knowingly was trying to help terrorists gain access to the WH.

[Valentine_W]

This is a significant story and will quickly make its way through many political circles, including the conservative circuit in DC. I am just going to sit back and wait to see what comes to play.

Horowitz has taken a definite risk by deciding to publish this story; some may argue that he has risked the entire reputation of his publication on this story.

For sure, Norquist has many enemies in Washington, both significant and insignificant...

BobJ's defense of Norquist is admirable; I just hope that BobJ knows Norquist personally enough to find it worth defending him.

[William McKinley]

As you know, I found this article credible and disturbing; it is why I pinged you to the other copy of it.

However, someone on the other thread challenged part of it, and I have to say I think that person was right-- one incident in the article appears to simply be made up despite the fact that it is footnoted.

Ironically, pro-Islamist groups had been scheduled to meet with President Bush on the morning of September 11 to hear what he planned to do to deliver on his secret evidence campaign pledge.27 But that day, the executive mansion complex was shut down, for fear that a fourth hijacked aircraft was headed its way.I watched bemused as Grover Norquist and the White House official responsible for Muslim outreach, Suhail Khan, escorted the displaced Islamists into the conference room we share.(Al-Arian had arranged to participate in the presidential meeting via phone. According to his website, his teaching schedule at the University of South Florida would not allow him to be there in person.)28

We all know that Bush was not scheduled to meet with anyone regarding anything at the White House on the morning of Sept. 11. Like Al-Arian, he was in Florida.

And if this footnoted incident is incorrect, how much else of the information is incorrect?

At the same time, there is so much information presented that can or could be confirmed or denied by third parties that I can't fathom that most or all of it is made up.

We need to hear more. We need a substantive response from Norquist; charges of bigotry won't cut it any more. But I sure would love to hear Gaffney explain why he said Bush was to have a White House meeting with these people when everyone knows he was in Florida.