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To: rmlew
If our friend "hchutch" is a mormon then he believes the US Constitution (I suppose with all its present and future amendments, including any possible far-left amendments in the future) is Divinely inspired.

All the same, I think orthodox mormons are "theocratic" according to their beliefs and would never say that "no one can have his religious beliefs dictated to him" (even by G-d A-mighty, I suppose). This guy sounds more like Voltaire than Smith.

Then again, it's possible--just possible, mind you--that some of the "social liberals" who are defending Norquist and his moslem allies are anti-Israel "palaeocons."

142 posted on 12/09/2003 8:05:53 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (G-d's laws or none!!!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
You've got it wrong. I'm more along the lines of the neo-conservatives in terms of foreign policy. think David Frum was correct with his "Unpatriotic Conservatives" article, I might add. Don't think you can pin me down that easily, or even accuse me of being a paleocon. I have nothing but hostility towards them. At a minimum, they tolerate anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry.
145 posted on 12/09/2003 8:20:32 PM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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To: Zionist Conspirator; rmlew
some of the "social liberals" who are defending Norquist and his Muslim allies are anti-Israel "paleocons."

That would explain why the BigGov neocons are trying to purge anti-tax warrior Norquest.

According to Lind, "The modern conservative brain trust originated in a scheme hatched in the 1970s by William E. Simon, Irving Kristol, and others." The plan was to make conservative intellectuals, hitherto an independent-minded, quirky, and diverse community, a controlled monolith that would function as the reliable tool of the Republican Party. "By the early 1990s, thanks to the success of the Simon-Kristol initiative, almost all major conservative magazines, think tanks, and even individual scholars had become dependent on money from a small number of conservative foundations."

Maybe if Grover *denounced* the paleos it would help him survive the purge?

151 posted on 12/09/2003 8:42:52 PM PST by EverFree (Gonzalez for Mayor of SF! Rip out the demonrats' San Francisco heart !)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
If our friend "hchutch" is a mormon then he believes the US Constitution (I suppose with all its present and future amendments, including any possible far-left amendments in the future) is Divinely inspired.
One does not have to be a member of LDS to see the work of Providence.

Then again, it's possible--just possible, mind you--that some of the "social liberals" who are defending Norquist and his moslem allies are anti-Israel "palaeocons."
PaleoConservatives are not "social liberals". They tend tobe civilizational or Christian conservatives. Most belong to the orthodox branches of their faiths. Most Pre-Vatican II Catholics I know are paleos.

190 posted on 12/10/2003 12:19:17 AM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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