The Mysterious Stranger

The New York Times ^ | 12/09/03 | David Brooks

[MEG33]

Will do.

[Diddle E. Squat]

There was a thread in the last day or two discussing Dean, and in the article it mentioned that Dean had been attending a Presbyterian(? not sure, but it was a mainline denomination) church, but left that denomination because of a disagreement over a bike trail. Really.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Found it: Democrat Howard Dean 'thinks' he's a thinker (George Will)

In the 4th paragraph.

"So, the argument about the public meaning of marriage is merely a semantic quibble important only to the "pretty religious"? Dean has said of his faith that "I don't think it informs my politics," and that he became a Congregationalist "because I had a big fight with a local Episcopal church about 25 years ago over a bike path." Fine. His faith, whatever it is, is his business and no disqualification for the presidency. But his qualifications supposedly include a searching intellect. Where is the evidence?

[Diddle E. Squat]

Actually I believe that Dean was born a Catholic.

[Diddle E. Squat]

But raised Joe Piscapo-lian, according to this article in the American prospect:

http://www.prospect.org/print/V14/10/franke-ruta-g.html

Starting 6 paragraphs from the end of the article:

"Dean's own conversion to Congregationalism was a more mundane political affair. He'd been christened as a Catholic and was raised Episcopalian. But he converted to the local Vermont religion as a consequence of his battle to make over the shoreline. "I had a big fight with a local Episcopal church about 25 years ago over the bike path," he told This Week with George Stephanopoulos in September. "We were trying to get the bike path built. They had control of a mile and a half of railroad bed, and they decided they would pursue a property-rights suit to refuse to allow the bike path to be developed." Dean eventually talked church leaders out of the lawsuit, recalls Sharp, but other railroad neighbors refused to budge and litigated the case all the way to U.S. Supreme Court.

The effort to restore the Lake Champlain shoreline was a turning point for Dean in his transformation from New Yorker to Vermonter: At the same moment, he both adopted the local faith and became involved in local politics. To this day, Dean remains devoted to the idea of local freedoms, local governing solutions and local control. He supports the assault-weapons ban, but other than that, prefers each state to draft its own gun-control laws -- a position that's earned him an "A" rating from the National Rifle Association. He signed the court-ordered civil-unions law in Vermont -- indeed, one lesbian couple in the suit that led to the law belong to the same Congregationalist church as Dean -- but does not favor any federal law on marriage. He's ferociously opposed to unfunded mandates that make impositions on state governments, such as the No Child Left Behind Act. "

A CBS source about his cafeteria religious journey: http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:TJD5uMVzbWAJ:www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/21/60II/main579140.shtml+congregationalist+episcopalian+catholic+%22howard+dean%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[tet68]

This is a devastating piece for any dem who is paying attention to read.Gore endorsed this today??

Dems can pay attention? I thought they all had ADAD.
Atrophied Democrat Attention Disorder.

Just another reason, A GOOD REASON Gore is NOT our President.

[shrinkermd]

"he gave up his church for a bike path Explain, please

Answer below:

"Dean's own conversion to Congregationalism was a more mundane political affair. He'd been christened as a Catholic and was raised Episcopalian. But he converted to the local Vermont religion as a consequence of his battle to make over the shoreline. "I had a big fight with a local Episcopal church about 25 years ago over the bike path," he told This Week with George Stephanopoulos in September. "We were trying to get the bike path built. They had control of a mile and a half of railroad bed, and they decided they would pursue a property-rights suit to refuse to allow the bike path to be developed." Dean eventually talked church leaders out of the lawsuit, recalls Sharp, but other railroad neighbors refused to budge and litigated the case all the way to U.S. Supreme Court.

From Independents for Dean

[MEG33]

Dean article.FYI

[bdeaner]

Diagnostic criteria for 300.14 Dissociative Identity Disorder
(cautionary statement)  

A. The presence of two or more distinct identities or personality states (each with its own relatively enduring pattern of perceiving, relating to, and thinking about the environment and self). 

B. At least two of these identities or personality states recurrently take control of the person's behavior. 

C. Inability to recall important personal information that is too extensive to be explained by ordinary forgetfulness. 

D. The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., blackouts or chaotic behavior during Alcohol Intoxication) or a general medical condition (e.g., complex partial seizures). Note: In children, the symptoms are not attributable to imaginary playmates or other fantasy play.

Reprinted with permission from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition, Text Revision.  Copyright 2000 American Psychiatric Association

[potlatch]

Dean runs as the "looney-leftist".

O'Reilly had a segment on Dean tonight, and how he has made totally opposing statements on four vital issues, one of which is gun control. He was really 'pinning down' the Dem strategist, who was just 'spinning'.

[autoresponder]

Dean conned the NRA for years to get their highest ratings

Now he turns on them and the NRA has photos, documents, video, audio in abundance

Dean's sucess so far as the weirdest and far leftist while his PR pimps call him a "Conservative" and a "Centrist" attest to the abismally low IQs of dim/libs

algore will use Dr. Deanmento like a playtoy to slap the Clintons around and attempt to re-establish some semblance of credibility for himself and then walk away from loser Dean and appear the "Master Statesman"

Ready to save the dims in 2004 with a draft or run again in 2008

Lotsa Perotista-Bush #41 type anger in algore against the Clintons and algore is the type of jerk who will play the Taft/Harriman losing hand into oblivion.

algore looks as bad as Hillary now; by 2008 they will need bags over their heads

Booze & drugs will do it every time

Expect an XXHD response from Hill & Bill in some way soon

They do not take these opponents kindly to say the least

[auboy]

He changes his color and sheds his skin,
and he'll tell you anything to win.

Like Al Gore, Dean's a graduate of Chameleon Tech with a major in Plastic Wood.

[tapatio]

How is it that one can deceive himself as to who he actually is?Will this same person deceive himself into thinking this country is free from those who want it destroyed?

[tapatio]

Howard Dean is the "Chock Full of Nuts" brand of politician!

[MEG33]

This is is hoot!(unless the worst possible thing happens!)

[Calpernia]

cross linking: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1037338/posts

[Hildy]

Interesting...from the New York Times.

[MEG33]

#49 is what I was referring to..I forgot to note it!

[potlatch]

algore looks as bad as Hillary now; by 2008 they will need bags over their heads

I can't tell, is this Al or Shrillary??

[onyx]

LOL! #49 --- seems accurate to me. Dem damn dems did me in --- I was sound asleep before 9:00pm Pacific!