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My fellow Dems, I think we have got ourselves a winner (Molly Ivins loves Howard Dean)
FORT WORTH STAR-TELEGRAM ^ | 12/8/2003 | Molly Ivins

Posted on 12/08/2003 9:10:31 PM PST by Utah Girl

No one has been waiting with bated breath for me to make up my mind about the Democratic presidential candidates, but I have, and you might be interested in how I got there. I'm for Howard Dean -- because he's going to win.

It is the bounden duty of bleeding-heart liberals like myself to make our political choices based on purity of heart, nobility of character, depth of compassion, sterling integrity and generosity of spirit. The concept of actually winning a political race does not, traditionally, influence the bleeding heart liberal one iota -- certainly not in the primaries.

Over the years, I have proudly voted for a list of losers only a lily-pure liberal could love. I am rather surprised not to find myself in the camp of the Noble Dennis Kucinich this year. (And believe me, there are supporters of the Noble Dennis who are plenty upset about it, too.) In fact, I initially passed on Dean precisely because he looked like one of my usual losers -- 2 percent in the polls and the full weight of Vermont behind him -- wow, my kind of guy.

Having concluded that this was the year to Be Sensible, look for a winner, find a moderate, and all that good stuff the expert political players do, I carefully studied the conventional wisdom. The conventional wisdom -- the avatar of all political knowledge, the Washington, D.C., press corps -- said John Kerry was the man. So, despite his resemblance to the finer products of the taxidermist's art, I sat around waiting for him to show signs of life. And waited.

Next, I consulted my buddies in the union movement, and they said Dick Gephardt was the man. I always like a labor liberal, and Gephardt's eyebrows have improved. I was hopeful for while, but concluded, as many do, that while Gephardt is Perfectly Good as a Democratic candidate, he ain't settin' the world on fire. Doesn't seem like a good year for a regular politician on account of we ain't lookin' at regular politics. These Republicans do not have a different strategy -- they are playing a different game. They don't want to govern, they want to rule.

Next, my lawyer friends recommended John Edwards, and even though my first impression was, "Too pretty, too light," I liked him better as time went on. Good strong populist streak to him, some good economic ideas, goes right after Bush on the economy. But conventional wisdom decided he is too young and untried.

Then along came Gen. Wesley Clark, and lots of people were excited. But I never have thought anyone should start in politics at the top. All those rich guys who run for office want to start at governor or senator, instead of running for the school board. Arnold Schwarzenegger aside, it's really not as easy as it looks.

Meanwhile, there's old Dean, causin' excitement. I went up to Vermont and talked to a bunch of liberals there. They all said Howard Dean is no liberal. Funny, that's what Howard Dean says, too. And indeed, he isn't, but in politics, everything's relative. The conventional wisdom first dismissed Howard Dean (the man has never been to a Washington dinner party!), then condescended to him, then graciously offered him instruction on how he should be running his campaign -- which seemed to be going along quite well without their input.

I talked to some big money guys who assured me Dean Can't Win. But of course I'm noticing this interesting thing: Dean has so much money he actually turned down public campaign financing (since I'm a card-carrying liberal, I was naturally deeply unhappy over this. But since Dean's money comes from Real People instead of corporate special interests, I'm not that unhappy.) Let me second the notion that this year, the Internet is to politics what television was in the 1960 Kennedy-Nixon race.

For a while, I fretted over Dean being angry, or at least appealing to the political anger that is normally manipulated by right-wing radio jocks. Anger makes liberals uncomfortable: We prefer peace, reason and gentle persuasion. Beloveds, it is way past time for us to get mad -- social, economic and political justice are being perverted by the Bush administration.

Dean gives a hell of a speech -- even if you're Republican, you should go and hear him just for the experience. But I fretted about Dean on TV -- TV is so important. How could anyone poker up on Margaret Carlson of PBS, not one of the world's toughest interviewers? But then I saw Dean laugh his way through a Chris Matthews interview (which he should have done with Tim Russert, who was hell-bent on gotcha questions), and I know the guy can take care of himself. So he fights back if you get in his face -- that's not all bad.

I know, he's even less of a liberal than Bill Clinton was, but I don't think Dean is a moderate centrist. I think he's a fighting centrist. And folks, I think we have got ourselves a winner here.

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To: Utah Girl
Can someone tell me why the liberals get so upset when someone says they aren't going to take public financing?

They want control of the political process itself, I guess. I think that when Nixon was president they started that Presidential Fund checkbox on the tax form. My sixties brother told me to always check it until about 5 years later when he told me to quit checking. I never check that box.
21 posted on 12/08/2003 9:34:52 PM PST by microgood (They will all die......most of them.)
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To: Az Joe
Since he IS the candidate, the adulation will be absolutely sickening for the next 11 months- in every media outlet.
22 posted on 12/08/2003 9:35:11 PM PST by At _War_With_Liberals (Hey TIME, "No blood for interviews")
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To: pierrem15
ROFL!!!

Christmas has come early for conservatives. Dean is leading and Molly is endorsing. Is that the fat lady I hear warming up???
23 posted on 12/08/2003 9:37:28 PM PST by DesertDreamer (A wise man's heart inclines him toward the right, but a fool's heart toward the left. --Ecc 10:2 RSV)
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To: Utah Girl
I know, he's even less of a liberal than Bill Clinton was, but I don't think Dean is a moderate centrist. I think he's a fighting centrist. And folks, I think we have got ourselves a winner here.

Wha? I'm trying to see things from her point of view, but this is too much. I'm not that flexible, and my head wouldn't fit up there anyways.

24 posted on 12/08/2003 9:39:49 PM PST by Steel Wolf (Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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To: Not now, Not ever!
Molly is not a real Texan, I think she's is Carville's twin sister or something
25 posted on 12/08/2003 9:40:04 PM PST by GeronL (My tagline for rent..... $5 per month or 550 posts/replies, whichever comes first... its a bargain!!)
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To: Utah Girl
"I'm for Howard Dean -- because he's going to win."

Why gee golly gosh, Molly.........of course he is. Yep yep yep........gonna thump Bush like a drum.

What a supremely ignorant bitch.

26 posted on 12/08/2003 9:40:31 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Utah Girl
bounden: it sounds kind of S&M to me. Molly and Howard are probably into the bondage thing.
27 posted on 12/08/2003 9:42:06 PM PST by Consort
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To: Utah Girl
When Dubya gets re-elected, I'll take more pleasure from the agony of folks like Ivins and Dowd than I will from the actual re-election. I'm pretty certain about this.
28 posted on 12/08/2003 9:44:36 PM PST by squidly
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To: Consort
bounden: it sounds kind of S&M to me. Molly and Howard are probably into the bondage thing.

Nah, it's just a Southernism. Though whenever I hear Molly, I do wish someone would stuff a gag in her mouth.

29 posted on 12/08/2003 9:45:51 PM PST by WackyKat
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To: Utah Girl
"Tim Russert, who was hell-bent on gotcha questions"

I didn't see it, but from Ivins' reaction it sounds like Russert didn't lob Dean a bunch of softballs as Ivins expects the media to do for Dems. "Gotcha" questions should only be directed at Republicans.
30 posted on 12/08/2003 9:45:56 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: RightOnline; Utah Girl
Of course, the real Prez Al Gore has endorsed Dean too... I wonder why Al doesn't want to be re-elected?? /sarcasm
31 posted on 12/08/2003 9:46:28 PM PST by GeronL (My tagline for rent..... $5 per month or 550 posts/replies, whichever comes first... its a bargain!!)
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To: Utah Girl
"The concept of actually winning a political race does not, traditionally, influence the bleeding heart liberal one iota -- certainly not in the primaries."

Possibly Ivins is deluding herself about this, but she's not fooling anyone here. Liberals are obsessed with winning.
32 posted on 12/08/2003 9:49:16 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: spectre
"Anger makes liberals uncomfortable: We prefer peace, reason and gentle persuasion."

This woman's lack of self-understanding is frightening. In Florida the other day, one Dem after another expressed little but rage, contempt, and paranoia.
33 posted on 12/08/2003 9:53:12 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: thoughtomator
"The depth of self-delusion in this article is simply staggering."

A bit frightening, actually, that she can be that out of touch with her real self.
34 posted on 12/08/2003 9:55:24 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Utah Girl
Chris Ruddy's take on Howard Dean.

Not sure I agree with everything Ruddy says here, but I am beginning to think we should be careful what we wish for.

35 posted on 12/08/2003 9:56:37 PM PST by murdoog (i just changed my tag line)
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To: Steve_Seattle
This woman's lack of self-understanding is frightening. In Florida the other day, one Dem after another expressed little but rage, contempt, and paranoia.

Yes. The liberals are going totally insane. Next thing we'll hear about is them eating their own flesh.
Ever checked out a left wing website? They're nuts! They're living in some kind of Twilight Zone.

36 posted on 12/08/2003 9:57:37 PM PST by concerned about politics ( "Satire". It's Just "Satire.".......So it is.)
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To: Democratshavenobrains
"Ivins must be insane if she thinks Dean handled himself well in that interview with Chris Matthews. He mentioned the Soviet Union for crying out loud! More than once!"

We're going to have to get used to the fact that most gaffes by Dean and the other Democrats will be smoothed over by the press; Republican gaffes will be trumpeted and will become part of the national lore. Just ask Dan Quayle.
37 posted on 12/08/2003 9:59:50 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Utah Girl
"...bated breath ..."

She can cast her vote in the proctology booth where they both would fit confortably.

Molly, your spelling is almost as bad as your logic!
38 posted on 12/08/2003 10:01:25 PM PST by leprechaun9
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To: Utah Girl
But of course I'm noticing this interesting thing: Dean has so much money he actually turned down public campaign financing (since I'm a card-carrying liberal, I was naturally deeply unhappy over this.

There was an interesting thread about this on Free Republic a couple of weeks ago. When you "turn down" public campaign financing, it enables you to better manage your money in states where you wish to concentrate more spending.

See, if you accept public funds, you are limited on how much you can spend in individual state primary races. So if you believe you really need to win, say, New Hampshire and you want to go bananas on TV ads, etc., without any constraints, then you ditch the public funds thereby freeing you up to go hog wild. No limit. This also forces your primary opponents to change their own strategeries.

It has absolutely nothing to do with having "so much money he actually turned down public campaign financing".

But then, who expects a lazy liberal cow like Ivins to actually do any homework.

39 posted on 12/08/2003 10:03:15 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Utah Girl
I'm sorry, but of all of the 9 dims running, he seems to be the sleaziest one of all. He looks like a shyster lawyer or something to me. Figures Molly would like him. More knee pads coming up?
40 posted on 12/08/2003 10:03:17 PM PST by ladyinred (The Left have blood on their hands!)
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