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Fallout continues from Web pictures [Penn State College Republicans]
The Digital Collegian [Penn State student newspaper] ^
| December 8, 2003
| By Bridget Smith
Posted on 12/08/2003 8:40:56 PM PST by StopGlobalWhining
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Please support Brian Battaglia and the College Republicans. They are being ruthlessly savaged by the Penn State administration and left-wing groups on campus.
Brian's e-mail adress is bbattaglia@psu.edu
Brian is intensely disliked by the left at PSU for several reasons:
- Brian is a white male.
- He is heterosexual.
- He is extremely intelligent. A senior in Aeronautical Engineering, Brian is skilled in logic, both verbal and symbolic, or he would have never reached the point in his education where he is at this moment. The left argues from anger and emotion, and cannot refute logical arguments.
- For these reasons, along with his political views, he is hated by left-wing extremist groups on campus who attempt to suppress views counter to their indefensible issues. Such groups include the Black Caucus, Womyns groups including the laughingly named "Womens Studies Dept", and the A-Z coalition (a.k.a LGBTAP).
Although these fringe extremist groups are tiny in comparison to the conservative student majority, they manage to make a lot more noise, plus they have the liberal Spanier administration behind them.
Additionally, they have a lot more free time on their hands to agitate and stir up trouble. If you are a upperclass student in Aeronautical Engineering at Penn State, you have far less free time to "raise hell" than if you are in such pseudo-academic courses such as African-American studies or "Womyn's Studies".
The College Republican photos were posted on a private web site without using any Penn State computer or network resources. It's none of Graham Spanier's business!
Please let Brian and the College Republicans know that many of us in the community, along with members of the PSU Alumni Association, support the PSU CR's!
To: mhking; rdb3
Comments?
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posted on
12/08/2003 8:46:58 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: StopGlobalWhining
This guy should resign because he is IQ impaired. You never post pics of yourself on the web, esp. anything remotely strange or questionable, because they can be archived and will exist forever!
To: StopGlobalWhining
Meanwhile, we have a presidential candidate who falsely accused numerous white men of kidnapping and rape and later incited a race riot that led to seven people being burned to death.
And the media won't say anything about it.
The Death of the West continues
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posted on
12/08/2003 8:50:51 PM PST
by
WackyKat
To: farmfriend
I don't think the College Republicans should be banned or have their freedom of speech curbed, but I hope they realize that the sophomoric stunts of a minority of their members have caused an uproar that has drowned out what should have been their positive and inspiring message. Part of an education is learning to think of the bigger picture. I'm looking forward to some growth and leadership from the CR's in the future.
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posted on
12/08/2003 8:56:47 PM PST
by
ntnychik
(They don't call me ntny for nthg.)
To: WackyKat
It's OK if he does it...
He is a man of color, and the member of an MINORITY.
that makes it OK... really.
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posted on
12/08/2003 8:57:20 PM PST
by
cavtrooper21
(Lions and Tigers and Bears... who cares.)
To: farmfriend; Willie Green; Kay Ludlow
If someone from one of the liberal groups on the PSU campus had a party and posted photos with George Bush depicted as Adolph Hitler, Colin Powell as Uncle Tom, John Ashcroft as a Christian Crusader slaying a Moor on the plains of Spain, Rumsfeld as Heinrich Himmler, etc, it would be the hit of the campus.
Front page of the Daily Collegian Collegian and a story featured on the old establishment alphabet broadcast news networks nightly news shows that fewer people watch every day.
To: StopGlobalWhining
He is extremely intelligentI would question the validity of that statement.
Black face, KKK mentioned?
These are "young Republicans?
I need far more info in this before I fully judge them but I would ask two things:
Does Penn State have any admissions criteria, or can any idiot get in? (OK, I pre-judged them)
As a minimum, they should be banned for poor taste.
If saying "niggardly" can get a white man fired (yeah, yeah, officially he resigned, under duress). Then who the hell, in this day and age, is stupid enough to dress in black face?
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posted on
12/08/2003 9:00:21 PM PST
by
Michael.SF.
(THECLINTONSARESCUMTHECLINTOSARESCUMTHECLINTONSARESCUM)
To: StopGlobalWhining
The photographs, which appeared on Battaglia's Web site, http://botag. net, depicted an "oversodomized frat pledge," "sorostitutes," and an unidentified white man wearing blue bed sheets with a caption referring to the Ku Klux Klan. A fourth photograph showed a white man in blackface and a bicycle chain over his shoulder, mocking Undergraduate Student Government (USG) and former Black Caucus Vice President Takkeem Morgan.
The College Republicans have a real winner on their hands. Why should anyone go to bat for him?
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posted on
12/08/2003 9:02:17 PM PST
by
lelio
To: StopGlobalWhining
"John Ashcroft as a Christian Crusader slaying a Moor on the plains of Spain"
I like that concept, I do, I really do. I can picture it in my mind.
Thank heavens I'm not in college!
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posted on
12/08/2003 9:10:42 PM PST
by
jocon307
(The Dems don't get it, the American people do.)
To: Dialup Llama
Looking for them now!
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posted on
12/08/2003 9:12:46 PM PST
by
muawiyah
To: StopGlobalWhining
Truly, backing this horse seems like a poor idea.
I dispute that he is all that intelligent, and I don't like behavior like this from anyone, certainly not someone who claims to be a Republican or conservative.
While I think tossing him from school is severe, anyone who thinks pictures and langauge like that is something defendable needs their head examined. At the very least, he doesn't deserve to be a leader of a group of Republicans with his obvious poor judgment.
Sorry, I can't back this horse.
Now you go and do the right thing.
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posted on
12/08/2003 9:16:45 PM PST
by
HitmanLV
(I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
To: lelio
"A fourth photograph showed a white man in blackface and a bicycle chain over his shoulder, mocking Undergraduate Student Government (USG) and former Black Caucus Vice President Takkeem Morgan."
Yeah, well the punch-line to that joke is that the esteemed Mr. Morgan is a bicycle thief, politically correctly described as someone who "took a bicycle that didn't belong to him", better known as STEALING it.
It's all pretty vulgar, that I'll admit. And that was never me, not even back in the bad old teenaged days. I've always been a pretty prudish person, but other than the KKK bit, I say it's probably fair game. Certainly the Morgan bit is.
You say it's black face, I say it's a costume.
Compare and contrast these antics with those of the Gay Lesbian Transgendered community. I have NO DOUBT that community advocates sado-masochism, bondage and discipline and all the role-playing and costuming excesses that go with that territory. Also the theraputic removal and attachment of penises at will.
And yet Animal House offends them. Face it folks this is what we're up against. Those who possess both iron fists and thin skins.
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posted on
12/08/2003 9:18:43 PM PST
by
jocon307
(The Dems don't get it, the American people do.)
To: StopGlobalWhining
Matthew Ritsko, an East Halls senator, said he resigned yesterday because he could not support the group's response to the outcry. "The actions they've taken haven't reflected the message they should be representing. I don't feel they're in the best interest of the conservative movement," Ritsko said. "It's unfortunate, and I hope both parties will be able to settle their disputes."
Jason Covener, the former USG member who dressed as Morgan, said that while he thinks some of the costumes in question were in poor taste, group members did nothing "beyond the realm of legality."
"There's no way I'm going to apologize," he said.
This is where the weak get separated from the strong, the sissies from the men.
I wouldn't apologize, either.
I would like to know, however, whether Battaglia posted the party pictures on his website (I presume his own, personal website) for the benefit of his friends so that they could view images taken at a private party, or whether he posted them with full knowledge that they would likely be viewed by members of the general public.
In other words, was he looking for a fight?
To: StopGlobalWhining
BTW, "blackface", as a theatrical technique, has been around for a very long time. In the context of Hindu epics and religious tales it usually denotes a demon. In the context of Medieval European morality plays, it usually denotes a bad guy. In the context of American politics it usually denotes someone somebody would like to oppress or victimize.
So, unless these YRs were running some sort of Hindu ceremony, they were off-base.
In fact, even if they were engaging in Hinduism, they forgot that most Indian-Americans support the most mind-numbed of robot-like Democrat Liberals, which means they have a lot more to account for than they thought.
Still, somebody should look into that threat of physical violence. No one misunderstood that guy FUR SHUR!
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posted on
12/08/2003 9:19:10 PM PST
by
muawiyah
To: jocon307
To: jocon307
Compare and contrast these antics with those of the Gay Lesbian Transgendered community. I have NO DOUBT that community advocates sado-masochism, bondage and discipline and all the role-playing and costuming excesses that go with that territory. Also the theraputic removal and attachment of penises at will. Everyone knows that if the college gays held a pride parade and dressed as nuns and priests sodomizing each other, the administration would defend them to the death against complaints that they had offended Catholics on grounds of free speech.
There's a total double standard, and I salute these students for not backing down
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posted on
12/08/2003 9:25:59 PM PST
by
WackyKat
To: StopGlobalWhining
"Jason Covener, the former USG member who dressed as Morgan, said that while he thinks some of the costumes in question were in poor taste, group members did nothing "beyond the realm of legality."
. . .is 'stupidity' a realm?
. . .they need to find a way to 'move on' and quickly. . .into safer more 'intelligent' territory.
It would be more stupid, for any other student to decide a personal retribution.
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posted on
12/08/2003 9:27:27 PM PST
by
cricket
To: Michael.SF.
Q: Then who the hell, in this day and age, is stupid enough to dress in black face?A: actor Ted Danson
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posted on
12/08/2003 9:31:47 PM PST
by
weegee
(No blood for ratings! This means YOU AOL-Time-Warner-Turner-CNN)
To: jocon307
I'm just skimming this thread and won't be delving too deep but the reference I get from the description of the chain is that it was a simple chain (that was light) to symbolize bondage and slavery (not theft).
The ghost in A Christmas Carol had chains too.
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posted on
12/08/2003 9:36:37 PM PST
by
weegee
(No blood for ratings! This means YOU AOL-Time-Warner-Turner-CNN)
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