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It all comes down to training. I was a deputy sheriff in New Mexico back in the late seventies. While it is true that back in the 1880's most individuals carrying a single action revolver had the hammer on an empty chamber(thereby making their 6 shooter a five shooter),in the late 20th Century, most cops carrying a double-action 6 shot revolver had 6 rounds in it. I was taught keep your finger off the trigger until your ready to shoot. Sometimes in plainclothes I carried a Colt .45 Auto or a Browning P35 9mm. They were carried in condition one (round in the chamber,cocked and locked). That was the way they were designed to be carried.
You DO NOT give the trigger a light pull on a duty gun. The Glock which is a standard gun throughout the U.S. comes with a standard 5 lb pull. NYPD got them to increase the tension on theirs to 8 lbs, known as the New York trigger. Then Glock also offered the option of a New York plus trigger of 12 lbs.
Probably 75%+ of negligent discharges are due to individuals with no background in firearms. 100% of them are due to negligence. My daughter was a GM/G (Gunner's Mate/Guns) in the Navy. When I went to her graduation at Great Lakes, the First Class that was her instructor could not say enough good things about her. He recognised she had been around weapons a good deal before her first weapons class at Great Lakes. Her marksmanship was noted by the seal team assigned to her ship. She has never had a ND because she is paranoid about safety.
Guns fire for a reason, someone pulled the trigger.
I see the problem as a training problem. Better more intense training and a chnge in the mindset of the majority of cops would make a difference. By the way you don't shoot to kill, you shoot to stop. That Lone Ranger bullsh#t of shooting to wound looked great at the movies and on TV, but as myself, Squantos, and a few other ex Peace Officers can tell you, it's bogus.
I recognise one other thing, the unloaded auto pistol chamber you are describing is advocated by the Israelis. Believe me them chambers is loaded when they are expecting trouble, Massad aint stupid. Good post by the way it should generate a lot of comments.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

It all comes down to training. I was a deputy sheriff in New Mexico back in the late seventies. While it is true that back in the 1880's most individuals carrying a single action revolver had the hammer on an empty chamber(thereby making their 6 shooter a five shooter),in the late 20th Century, most cops carrying a double-action 6 shot revolver had 6 rounds in it. I was taught keep your finger off the trigger until your ready to shoot. Sometimes in plainclothes I carried a Colt .45 Auto or a Browning P35 9mm. They were carried in condition one (round in the chamber,cocked and locked). That was the way they were designed to be carried.
You DO NOT give the trigger a light pull on a duty gun. The Glock which is a standard gun throughout the U.S. comes with a standard 5 lb pull. NYPD got them to increase the tension on theirs to 8 lbs, known as the New York trigger. Then Glock also offered the option of a New York plus trigger of 12 lbs.
Probably 75%+ of negligent discharges are due to individuals with no background in firearms. 100% of them are due to negligence. My daughter was a GM/G (Gunner's Mate/Guns) in the Navy. When I went to her graduation at Great Lakes, the First Class that was her instructor could not say enough good things about her. He recognised she had been around weapons a good deal before her first weapons class at Great Lakes. Her marksmanship was noted by the seal team assigned to her ship. She has never had a ND because she is paranoid about safety.
Guns fire for a reason, someone pulled the trigger.
I see the problem as a training problem. Better more intense training and a chnge in the mindset of the majority of cops would make a difference. By the way you don't shoot to kill, you shoot to stop. That Lone Ranger bullsh#t of shooting to wound looked great at the movies and on TV, but as myself, Squantos, and a few other ex Peace Officers can tell you, it's bogus.
I recognise one other thing, the unloaded auto pistol chamber you are describing is advocated by the Israelis. Believe me them chambers is loaded when they are expecting trouble, Massad aint stupid. Good post by the way it should generate a lot of comments


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Thanks for the comments.

You are very accurate in your written comments. I agree with everyone of them.

It is great to hear that you daughter has been taught well, you should be proud. I would be. My daughter has the same mind set, but not anywhere as proficient as yours.


I agree with you do not lighten your trigger on your duty gun. But with 450,000 LEO's can we be sure some have not got the message?

I am not a chicago anti gun supporter, however, the two innocent victims in 1999 were pulled over for a traffic stop and for some reason they perhaps refused to follow commands and the young rookie cop pulled her weapon and ask the passinger to exit the vehicle and in her hand was a cell phone. It cost the city 10 million. The second victim a Northwestern football scholarship player won 5 million for a traffic stop.

My point is discussion of the issue and I sure would not want to be in the hands of a rookie cop in the above situation.

Nice post have a good day.