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To: AxelPaulsenJr; Eagle9
I'm almost reluctant to respond to your post, but your determination to pursue this matter leaves me no choice.

I went in search of your reference material, and I found it here: http://www.bullymag.com/. Is this really your idea of a well researched and well documented rebuttal? An opinion piece from an online magazine that is described by Google as a "sarcastic, cynical, hilarious magazine that mocks everyone, and everything"? Mr. Wohlrob's opinion piece offers not one shred of documentation to back up any of his opinions. I can only assume that his list is based upon cities that he has personally visited, or perhaps only heard about from unknown sources. He offers no statistical data to back up any of his observations.

My previous posts about Pine Bluff are based upon statistical data provided by Morgan Quitno Press, a company that specializes in state and city ranking publications. You can read about this company's research and reputation here: http://www.morganquitno.com/aboutus.htm. If a single source isn't good enough for you, the 2002 statistical rankings provided by Morgan Quitno are very much in keeping with the 2001 FBI statistics quoted in this article: http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/1109/p2s2-usju.html. (Just as an aside, there are also some rather dismal Pine Bluff economic statistics mentioned in this article, based upon research by yet another company, Policom Corp.: http://www.africanperspective.com/html29/AmtW.html.)

As I said before, I lived in Pine Bluff for 17 years and I still have close ties to the city. I take no joy in what has happened to what was once a fine southern town, but I am certainly not blind to its decline. Your claims that Pine Bluff has no more than its "fair share" of problems is not supported by statistical data, Axel. The fact is, Pine Bluff has far more than its "fair share" of problems........Pine Bluff's share of problems has put it on the map as one of the poorest and most dangerous cities in the United States.
117 posted on 12/12/2003 12:35:57 PM PST by freedox
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To: freedox
Sorry, the links don't seem to be working in my previous post. Try these:

http://www.bullymag.com/

http://www.morganquitno.com/aboutus.htm

http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/1109/p2s2-usju.html

http://www.africanperspective.com/html29/AmtW.html
118 posted on 12/12/2003 12:48:33 PM PST by freedox
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To: freedox
I'm almost reluctant to respond to your post, but your determination to pursue this matter leaves me no choice.

I am not sure what you mean by that, I have no exactly been posting to you everday on this subject this week. In fact it was you who first posted to me, earlier this week.

I went in search of your reference material, and I found it here: http://www.bullymag.com/. Is this really your idea of a well researched and well documented rebuttal? An opinion piece from an online magazine that is described by Google as a "sarcastic, cynical, hilarious magazine that mocks everyone, and everything"? Mr. Wohlrob's opinion piece offers not one shred of documentation to back up any of his opinions. I can only assume that his list is based upon cities that he has personally visited, or perhaps only heard about from unknown sources. He offers no statistical data to back up any of his observations.

Yes this is a satirical piece. I used it only as a means to point out the fallacys that can exist in lists such as the one you posted.

My previous posts about Pine Bluff are based upon statistical data provided by Morgan Quitno Press, a company that specializes in state and city ranking publications. You can read about this company's research and reputation here: http://www.morganquitno.com/aboutus.htm. If a single source isn't good enough for you, the 2002 statistical rankings provided by Morgan Quitno are very much in keeping with the 2001 FBI statistics quoted in this article: http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/1109/p2s2-usju.html. (Just as an aside, there are also some rather dismal Pine Bluff economic statistics mentioned in this article, based upon research by yet another company, Policom Corp.: http://www.africanperspective.com/html29/AmtW.html.)

In reading a list of desirable and non-desirable cities that came out a few years ago I observed that among the factors studies such as these often cite in basing their rankings, are such things as the number of Opera houses, and other cultural avenues that are available in the area being studied and ranked.

As I said before, I lived in Pine Bluff for 17 years and I still have close ties to the city. I take no joy in what has happened to what was once a fine southern town, but I am certainly not blind to its decline. Your claims that Pine Bluff has no more than its "fair share" of problems is not supported by statistical data, Axel.

Statistical data is one thing, actually living here tells me that the statistics are not telling the whole story of Pine Bluff.

The fact is, Pine Bluff has far more than its "fair share" of problems........Pine Bluff's share of problems has put it on the map as one of the poorest and most dangerous cities in the United States.

Do we have crime in Pine Bluff, yes we do. We also have thank the Lord, a new and very progessive black police chief named Daniel Moses. The chief is doing much to turn the police force and our city around. I would invite you to check on the most recent crime statistics for the city, I think that you will find that the chief is making a big difference.

Your initial post to me along the lines that you served hard time here made me really wonder, did you not have any fun here at all? Did you ever play golf at Harbour Oaks? Swim at the Country Club, go to a Razorback game in Little Rock? Belong to a church?

I guess that is what about the whole matter that is really perplexing to me. If the town was that damn bad, why did it take you 17 years to get out of town?

I am happy for you that you have found a better place to live.

Merry Christmas.

121 posted on 12/12/2003 1:45:34 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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