To: drjulie
Often the narcissist feels inadequate or even terrified of these types of demandsInteresting insight. Perhaps terrified enough to kill.
Doc, if we now see that SP had told previous girlfriends that he didn't want children, I would assume that he told Laci that as well. Why do you suppose he went along with "trying to have a baby" with Laci for about one year before she became pregnant?
Also, is narcissism a learned or inherited type of behavior?
To: Velveeta; drjulie
Hey, try this on for size. We always hear that "Scott and Laci were trying to have a baby." But maybe that was just a facade. Maybe when it was just the two of them together, they argued about it. Maybe Laci kept asking to have a baby, and maybe Scott kept putting her off. Maybe Laci got tired of being put off, and just left off the birth control--but w/o telling Scott. Maybe he felt that she had tricked him, that she had gotten the better of him... and maybe he felt mad enough about that to kill her.
I mean, there she'd be, in his mind, doing what he said not to do, and he had to sit by helplessly and watch it happen, UNLESS... unless he struck the final blow (killing both her and the kid) and "won the game".
To: Velveeta
"Doc, if we now see that SP had told previous girlfriends that he didn't want children, I would assume that he told Laci that as well. Why do you suppose he went along with "trying to have a baby" with Laci for about one year before she became pregnant?"
One possibility is preservation of his image. If he refused to have the baby Laci may complain to his family, her family, and their friends. This would make him look bad and he would perceive this as very threatening, perhaps intolerable. It will be interesting to see if the prosecution has uncovered any evidence that he did not want the baby (I'm guessing there are bits here and there -like what we read in the NE and what he told Amber).
627 posted on
01/03/2004 6:43:34 AM PST by
drjulie
To: Velveeta
"Also, is narcissism a learned or inherited type of behavior?"
We don't know. There is quite a bit of theorizing among psychodynamic theorists. They believe these people often have cold, rejecting parents. The narcissism is a way of defending against feelings of rejection and unworthiness. Also, it is a way convincing themselves that they don't need intimate relationships with others. Evidence that supports these theories: Abused children, children of divorced parents, children given up for adoption, and children who have lost a parent to death all have a higher risk of being narcissistic.
There is also theorizing among behavioral/cognitive theorists. They believe that narcissism can be caused by treatment that is too positive or favorable. Evidence that supports this theory: First born & only children tend to be more narcissistic. Also, recent studies of narcissistic/sociopathic criminals suggests higher than average scores on self-esteem measures.
I'm not aware of any studies showing a biological component to this problem but there are some studies supporting biological factors in causing antisocial personality disorder. They tend to be underaroused, have less anxiety, and be sensation-seeking. The underarousal may make it difficult to learn from experience.
628 posted on
01/03/2004 7:04:07 AM PST by
drjulie
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