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House of Saud in 'panic' over al-Qaida
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| Posted: December 6, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern
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Posted on 12/07/2003 12:52:10 AM PST by Bobby777
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To: highlander_UW
A bloody take-no-prisoners civil war in Saudi Arabia might be exactly what Islam needs.
I just suggest that you be careful for what you wish for. Consider the results if the Islamists win and take control of Saudi Arabia?
In doing so they sea their doom. Needless to say the United States will not allow AQ to control 25% of the world's oil reserves so upon the defeat and exile of the House of Saud the US will invade and defeat the terrorists. This will not only have the effect of eliminating the terrorists paymaster but also put American boots into the "holy cities" of Mecca and Medina. These wackos actually believe that Allah protects these cities and will kill any invader That approaches them. The presence of American soldiers getting their pictures taken in front of the black rock will forever wipe this theory of invincibility from them and reduce them to a minor threat of a very small number of extremists. The benefits will be that we will finally have a representative democracy int the new nation of Arabia.
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posted on
12/07/2003 9:35:09 AM PST
by
CzarNicky
(The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
To: lentulusgracchus
For your multiple uses of the present tense regarding the dead guy.
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posted on
12/07/2003 10:37:05 AM PST
by
ASA Vet
("Right-wing Internet wacko")
To: Bobby777; Cronos
"This has sparked a debate over how to reconcile with al-Qaida and end this war." I am surprised the conversation has not focused on this. The Saudis are not trying to fight AQ...they know they'd lose. They are trying to re-establish the old we-support-you-and-you-leave-us-in-power deal with AQ. The Saudis are trying to strike a deal. But AQ knows that they would win the struggle too....no deal.
To: CzarNicky
In doing so they sea their doom. Needless to say the United States will not allow AQ to control 25% of the world's oil reserves so upon the defeat and exile of the House of Saud the US will invade and defeat the terrorists. This will not only have the effect of eliminating the terrorists paymaster but also put American boots into the "holy cities" of Mecca and Medina. These wackos actually believe that Allah protects these cities and will kill any invader That approaches them. The presence of American soldiers getting their pictures taken in front of the black rock will forever wipe this theory of invincibility from them and reduce them to a minor threat of a very small number of extremists. The benefits will be that we will finally have a representative democracy int the new nation of Arabia. Now all that may be, but I'd just point out that "these wackos" you refer to number 1.3 Billion and are in almost every nation in the world. Warfare is no longer 2 nations lining up and sending their militaries against each other.
To: Travis McGee
If AQ won control of SA, then they would make the next fatal step outside of their borders, and 20 minutes later, mecca and Medina would be glowing craters. Then we would discover if Mad Mo's Insane Murder Cult could exist after Allahs all-powerful black moon-god rock was shown conclusively to be no match for a nuclear warhead. Do you honestly believe the U.S. would nuke Mecca and Medina?
People are very quick to advocate nuclear options, but as I mentioned to another poster, there are 1.3 Billion Muslims around the world, you nuke Mecca and Medina and you better start the draft and increase the military budget enormously as well as possibly install martial law within the U.S.
To: ASA Vet
![](http://www.bobbydarin.net/davis_jra.jpg)
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It looks more like Sammy bin Davis (no offense to the late Mr. Davis Jr. -- its just the way the likeness looks)
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posted on
12/07/2003 11:43:13 AM PST
by
freedumb2003
(Peace through Strength)
To: highlander_UW
"Now all that may be, but I'd just point out that "these wackos" you refer to number 1.3 Billion and are in almost every nation in the world. Warfare is no longer 2 nations lining up and sending their militaries against each other."
There are not 1.3 billion wackos and even if you count the 10% that give AQ the thumbs up there is only a significantly smaller portion that actually would do their bidding. Take the money out of the equation and it gets even smaller. Americans in Mecca would be the worst thing for these guys because that would show that America was stronger than their god.
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posted on
12/07/2003 11:51:19 AM PST
by
CzarNicky
(The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
To: highlander_UW; dennisw
Do you honestly believe the U.S. would nuke Mecca and Medina?Read more carefully. Where did I say the USA would nuke Mecca? I didn't. I said that Saudi Arabia under AQ leadership would do something incredibly stupid outside of its territory, and 20 minutes later Mecca would be nuked. Think about it.
But yes, I think we are building to an end game where one or more US cities will suffer a WMD attack, or smallpox etc. After that, you can bet the President will be getting serious advice about snuffing out the source of Mad Mo's Mojo, the black moon-god kaaba rock.
However, I think a closer regional power will suffer the WMD attack first, and in turn they will be the ones who turn the moon-god rock into a crater.
68
posted on
12/07/2003 1:06:24 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee
Maybe we'll get the long-awaited Islamic civil war out of this, leading eventually to an Islamic reformation.I think that this is one of the reasons for the Iraq war. We freed up oil in an other part of the world and left Saudi Arabia so that is could sink into civil war, thus insuring that Saudi Arabia's troubles would not sink the rest of the world.
As for reformation of islam not a chance the koran does not allow for it, unlike the Reformation in Christianity that happened because people began to follow the Bible more fully. You follow the koran more fully all you get is blood shed.
To: CzarNicky
There are not 1.3 billion wackos and even if you count the 10% that give AQ the thumbs up there is only a significantly smaller portion that actually would do their bidding.Hmmm....maybe you have not seen the polls done on muslim populations and their support of AQ.
To: Diogenesis
I agree ... they knew ... they did nothing ... all for the glory of allah ...
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posted on
12/07/2003 2:10:32 PM PST
by
Bobby777
To: blanknoone
that sounds EXACTLY what the House of Saud would try to do ...
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posted on
12/07/2003 2:14:57 PM PST
by
Bobby777
To: Lady Heron
"Hmmm....maybe you have not seen the polls done on muslim populations and their support of AQ."
It doesn't matter what the level of support is without a paycheck only the most committed are going to bother to get off their duff. This is why Saudi Arabia is critical. They have the money.
73
posted on
12/07/2003 2:38:03 PM PST
by
CzarNicky
(The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
To: section9
>this war will end in one of two ways; 1) with America triumphant and the Arab world making progress towards
representative government, or 2) with American triumphant and the Arab world obliterated by
a retaliatory barrage of thermonuclear warheads.
1) The Arab "masses"
seem to profoundly hate us.
If they all "move to"
"representative"
government, that would renew
a war with the West.
2) The way upper air
patterns work, nuclear strikes
any where result
in fallout patterns
distributed north and south
of the equator
in bands that include
all of the United States.
This "war" is complex.
To: Diogenesis
I doubt if the Saudis will get what they deserve if President Bush keeps protecting them.
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posted on
12/07/2003 3:05:24 PM PST
by
huskerco
To: CzarNicky
It doesn't matter what the level of support is without a paycheck only the most committed are going to bother to get off their duff. This is why Saudi Arabia is critical. They have the money. They get off their duffs alright, when their population numbers have grown enough within a society. Saudi Arabia is not the only country that sponsers islamic terrorism. Look at Lebenon, that was Iran and Syria sponsered. Lets not forget all the money that Lybia and Egypt also throw into the mix, and all those wonderful islamic charities.
You take Saudi money out of the mix(which I think that we are in the process of doing), and an other power hungry islamic group just fill the spot. It is the call of the religion not just one sect of the religion.
To: Bobby777
House of Saud in 'panic' over al-Qaida This is the same panic experienced by Dr. Victor Frankenstein.
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posted on
12/07/2003 3:22:08 PM PST
by
CaptRon
To: huskerco
I doubt if the Saudis will get what they deserve if President Bush keeps protecting them.It may be just wishful thinking on my part, but I do not think that we are protecting Saudi Arabia. The minute we took control of Iraq (securing a stable oil supply for the world) the first thing we did was take our military out of Saudi Arabia.
I do not see us rushing in to help Saudi Arabia in anyway with their AQ problem. I think we are going to let them sink into civil war. The princes will either have to clear out AQ from the kingdom(something we have been asking them to do) or they will die at AQ's hands. No more status quo from us, and we do not have to lift a finger. Muslims can fight among themselves, keeping the war over there and not on our soil. Maybe they will exaust themselves.
To: lentulusgracchus
didn't the Moops invade Spain? (sorry, obscure 'Seinfeld' joke) ...
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posted on
12/07/2003 3:32:27 PM PST
by
Bobby777
To: Lady Heron
You shouldn't be surprised at how quickly groups lose their luster once their ability to make payments is lost. There are still democrats around but not as many of them. Saudi Arabia is the key.
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posted on
12/07/2003 3:38:45 PM PST
by
CzarNicky
(The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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