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1 posted on 12/06/2003 9:56:51 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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"Numerous studies have demonstrated that covering deductibles and coinsurance has led to higher Medicare spending because beneficiaries become insensitive to costs," the report said. "Beneficiaries with Medigap consume $1,400 more in Medicare services than beneficiaries without supplemental coverage."

No where here does it say the increase in services was not needed.
Is it insensitive to costs ? or can I now afford to have needed services that I couldn't before ?


I just don't understand how government funding of a drug plan is a good thing, especially this plan.

There are drug discount programs, that, for less than $50.00 year, offer 50% disccount on generic drugs & 25% discount on brand name drugs.
If the rats & rinos are hell-bent on pushing money down a sinkhole, it seems the feds springing for some programs like this would save everyone a whole bunch of money.
2 posted on 12/06/2003 10:18:56 PM PST by stylin19a (is it vietnam yet ?)
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Nearly 12 million retirees have drug coverage and other health benefits from former employers. If those retirees sign up for the Medicare benefit, the employers can help pay the beneficiaries' share of drug costs. But those payments would not count toward the $3,600 limit on out-of-pocket spending.

Answers my question about my father's medication costs. I'll have to tell him not to sign up for this plan. As part of his retirement package, the company he worked for pays 90%.

3 posted on 12/06/2003 10:27:41 PM PST by Aracelis
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Very interesting info here.
4 posted on 12/07/2003 12:22:54 AM PST by kayak (The Vast, Right-Wing Conspiracy is truly Vast! [JohnHuang2])
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Under the standard benefit, a Medicare recipient would pay $3,600 of the first $5,100 of drug costs. After that, Medicare would pay 95 percent of the cost of each prescription. In theory, the bill establishes a limit of $3,600 a year on out-of-pocket costs.

Is there a reporter out there, after years of schooling, that can do math? If you continue to pay 5% of everything after the $5100, how can there a limit on out-of-pocket expenses?

This is the plan the keeps on costing!

6 posted on 12/07/2003 6:47:17 AM PST by raybbr
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When anything is "free", people will want more of it. Doctors will give away more of it and seniors will either stockpile it or sell it to non-seniors for pure profit and greed. This will help keep the fraud and greed to a minimum. There is also a thing called "over medicated". Just because a doctor gives you a drug does not mean it will help you. Some actually do more harm when there are interactions with other drugs you are on. Too much of a good thing can kill you. Seniors are also the wealthiest segment of the population. It should be means tested. Let's also not forget, IT'S VOLUNTARY.
7 posted on 12/07/2003 6:57:41 AM PST by Ron in Acreage
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Socialized medicine requires the expropriation of existing businesses, and then the creation of "economic crimes against the state".

Hillarycare contained a $50 000 fine and five years in prison for doctors who made a private contract with a patient.

Medicare cannot compete with the private sector-so the private sector has to go.

8 posted on 12/07/2003 9:41:58 AM PST by Jim Noble
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